Formula vs. WS6
Formula vs. WS6 Can someone plz tell me the huge difference between the two that has the formula rated 13.9 in the quarter and a ws6 rated 13.4 or 13.5?? what exactly makes the .4 sec difference in both cars? 20 more bhp? functional ram air? better tuning? i would like to know, so i can make my car equivalent to a ws6 then go from there. Thanks alot for your input.
Marketing makes the .4 seconds, they are equally as fast (equal years) the 01's and 02's may be a *little* faster, meaning like a fender, but other than that they are equal. Check out JRP's faq, and SEARCH. Its been discussed, alot. Good luck with the car!
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Yeah they are pretty much equal, but a 98+ WS6 formula (not Trans Am) is pretty much the fastest in stock trim. There was an article in Popular Mechanics comparing 13 or so cars on the drag strip. There was alot of cars in it including a WS6 Formula and a Camaro SS. They both did extremely well against some of the most expensive cars available, especially the formy. But that is stock cars with stock tires. In the real world its your mods versus their mods, not many cars like ours are stock.... aside from girls and really young teens
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Hey I found it, .. .check this out its pretty cool http://www.popularmechanics.com/auto...tml?page=1&c=y
Originally Posted by JDP
what i was told is that a formula should be slightly quicker than a ws6 t/a because they are lighter. correct me if im wrong
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Originally Posted by DrEvyl
A standard Formula would not be faster than a WS6 because the WS6 has a freer flowing exhaust. I put that exhaust on my stock Trans Am and gained .2 on my E/Ts on the strip.
A Trans Am weighs more than a Formula, and a WS6 weighs even more than a TA, due to larger sway bars and larger wheels and tires. The main benefit the WS6 would have over a stock Formula would be the ram air hood, which really only makes a difference at very high speeds. Since pretty much everyone adds a catback, or at the very least cutouts, the WS6 exhaust isn't really a factor.
I had a 2002 SS w/ the 2.75" exhaust, and I now own a 2000 Formula. I noticed no significant difference between the two. The SS, being a 2002, had the LS6 intake, better exhaust manifolds, and the SS-WS6 exhaust, but the Formula has slightly shorter gear ratio (3.42 vs 3.23), and is slightly lighter than the SS was.
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Originally Posted by bbfirebird
I think there might have been other factors at work than the exhaust. The WS6 exhaust is only .25" more diameter than a standard exhaust. Going by the generic 10 HP = .1 second standard, that would be somewhere in the ballpark of a 20 HP increase by adding the WS6 exhaust. You don't even get that kind of gain from a 3" mandrel-bent catback, let alone a 2.75" factory exhaust. Were there any other mods you had added at the time- free mods, etc.?
A Trans Am weighs more than a Formula, and a WS6 weighs even more than a TA, due to larger sway bars and larger wheels and tires. The main benefit the WS6 would have over a stock Formula would be the ram air hood, which really only makes a difference at very high speeds. Since pretty much everyone adds a catback, or at the very least cutouts, the WS6 exhaust isn't really a factor.
I had a 2002 SS w/ the 2.75" exhaust, and I now own a 2000 Formula. I noticed no significant difference between the two. The SS, being a 2002, had the LS6 intake, better exhaust manifolds, and the SS-WS6 exhaust, but the Formula has slightly shorter gear ratio (3.42 vs 3.23), and is slightly lighter than the SS was.
A Trans Am weighs more than a Formula, and a WS6 weighs even more than a TA, due to larger sway bars and larger wheels and tires. The main benefit the WS6 would have over a stock Formula would be the ram air hood, which really only makes a difference at very high speeds. Since pretty much everyone adds a catback, or at the very least cutouts, the WS6 exhaust isn't really a factor.
I had a 2002 SS w/ the 2.75" exhaust, and I now own a 2000 Formula. I noticed no significant difference between the two. The SS, being a 2002, had the LS6 intake, better exhaust manifolds, and the SS-WS6 exhaust, but the Formula has slightly shorter gear ratio (3.42 vs 3.23), and is slightly lighter than the SS was.
The rest of your post really doesn't make a lot of sense.
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From: AZ
Originally Posted by DrEvyl
The performance difference, stock vs, stock, between a WS6 and a standard T/A or Formula is all in the exhaust. There's nothing else on the car that would make it faster, the engine & drivetrain are identical. I added the WS6 cut off exhaust to my '99 Trans Am and gained .25 on my E/Ts on the track.
The rest of your post really doesn't make a lot of sense.
The rest of your post really doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Spend enough time looking at the dyno results people have posted when their cars were stock, and wouldn't spend too much time pouring over the slight differences in the cars. Good 40 rwhp swing between the lower dynoing A4s of the bunch and the factory freak M6s. In theory if you had a factory freak ram air formula, should have a slight advantage over other stock cars, but like others mentioned not a lot of people left their car stock, especially if they're interested in an impromtu race on the street
