GTOdave

ok guys i gto an 04 gto with torqure v2 cam..ls6 cnc fully ported heads..LT HEADERS its an auto car and it has a dyno tune with on it...which only made 380 at the wheels...went to the track tonight and made 3 passes...13.3 at 103 with 2.4 60 ft..13.58 at 105 and 13.59 at 105 with 60 fts both at 2.3./....my car should be makinmg more power then this and have better times..shouldnt it...i was on DRs also......so waht do u guys think i should do next to get in the 11s...maybe a 3600 stall and differnt gears..or what??,,,bc i am very pissed about all these numbers after droppin in 3 grand for cam adn heads...last year it went 13.14 with just headers and street tires..what am i doin wrong?

Roel Aguilar

iTrader: (3)

Your 60's are too high. Are spinning out of the hole? I would imagine if you get a 1.9 60' you would be in the 12's.

On my 04 GTO, I have A 3600. The stall alone dropped about .6 and gained 3 mph. Mods are LT, slp lm1, Superchips 2724 tune, edge racing 3600 stall. My best time so far is a 12.77 @ 107 w/ 1.7 60'

breze84

Thats odd that your 60 is so high but yet your MPH is so low... On the norm anytime you you have a high 60ft time do to spinning your MPH will be higher... If you hook your MPH should be a tad lower but with better times... With your mods you should be in the low low low 12's... First off get your 60's down and go from there... You should have a stall though to get the most out of your mods...

GTOdave

im spinning bad out of the hole..even with Drag radals...what would you guys say for a stall..like 3400 ? and dont you guys think i shuld be puttin more down at the wheel? and if i get a new stall im gonna have to get a new rear end bc im sure this ine WILL blow hanha

Roel Aguilar

iTrader: (3)

If you are spinning out of the hole with the stock converter, a stall will only make it worse. A stall converter will flash the rpm's very quickly. Maybe you might want to consider a full slick.

I can hook on my 245 45 17 nitto DR's with a 3600 stall

R3DLT1

iTrader: (5)

Looks like u need some more beef on them tires.

Wat DR are u running and wat size?

Rob

iTrader: (6)

Try not hitting the launch so hard. Start getting it rolling before you really lay into the throttle. Maybe launch from idle.

I agree, a stall will make it worse.

I would really be concerned why it isn't making power. Those MPH is what stock GTO's were running. Can scan/log the runs to see what's going on?

danieloneil01

You have an actual dyno tune or a mail in tune? I only ask because your sig is throwing me off.

If you have a dyno tune post it up.

GTO1_OHIO

iTrader: (3)

Lets start with the basics.

A) What DRs and what size?
B) What tire pressure?
C) How did you do your burnout?
D) What gear did you launch in?
E) traction control on or off?

As for your dyno numbers. Can you post your dyno sheet? What TB, intake, and exhaust?

05JUDGE

iTrader: (26)

Ok I'm sitting here reading this and everyone so far has totally missed what I'm seeing. If I'm reading correctly, you're running a torquer V2 cam on a STOCK A4 with no after market stall converter? If this is the case, there is your problem right there. There is no way you're even getting power to the ground with that much of a cam on a stock stall. You're probably not even into your power band by the end of your 60ft on a stock stall with that cam. The point of a stall is to get you into your power band off the line. I hope I am wrong and you are running some sort of aftermarket converter. Plus,the harder you launch drag radials the quicker they should hook, but not having power to the ground because of the lack of a converter, would definately cause a slow 60ft. This would explain the high 60ft times and low mph. You're just plain ******* off the line, not spinning. You've got all the right stuff, you just left out one of the most important parts. Converter and retune and you will be more than happy.

danieloneil01

^^He said he's spinning bad out the hole. Read post 4

ttranssam

iTrader: (10)

yea, its all in the launch...stall it and nail some 1.7-1.8 60's and youll be impressed...good luck and lots of practice

05JUDGE

iTrader: (26)

I just don't buy having that much spin on a DR.

GTO1_OHIO

iTrader: (3)

Easy with Nittos and not a proper burn out. Also easy with the wrong tire pressure.

GTOdave

i am spiining bad out of the hole..and yes i am running stock converter and stock gears in the rear end and i am the new Nitto DRs..i burned then for a good 15 secs...then i burned them off in our pimp juice that we were all using..and everyone e;se was gettin hooked..but me..i thihnk all i need is a 3600 stall , some slicks and maybe some gears in the rear end..and it was not a mail oin order tune..my sig is off lol..but its wierd bc at the dyno it was pushing 378 with the base tune then he stated to tune it and it hit 401 once then he said when it hit 401 something wasnt right so he took timming out of it and then went back to 386..idk if he new what he was tunning it right or not..but i hjeard he was good then i heard he wasnt..so i think the tune is shitty for only pushin out 386 with heads and cam..but i do need slicks and different geears and a convertor..just doint have the money right now

GTOdave

A) 255/45/17s
B)tire pressure was 13 psi
C) its an auto car...so it launched from 1st
D) yes traction control was off lol im not that dumb lol it pulls timeing lol

impulseblue06

well i run the torquer 2 ran consistant 12.4's my whole time out last year around this time since then i have now added the procharger and going to race on 5/13 i was running on 245/45/17 nittos on stock rims cut 1.7 60's all day long mods were torquer 2,rust setters, cai, hp tuners tune, 3200 stall, full weight. time is in my sig, ran the car in drive , make sure you really heat up those tires and if you start spinning to let out of it a bit, you will find the sweet spot, the stall is definetly a must to launch hard. if you want to talk about the mods or tips my aim sn is trialsrider9723

GTOdave

yea i just need a stall i guess huh..but im afraid if u get a stall then im gonna break sumthin in my rear end..

05JUDGE

iTrader: (26)

I'm on my second setup of over 500rwhp on my stock stall and tranny and no issues with over 100k miles. Just get a stall and do a good "John Force" burnout on those Nittos and you'll be good to go.

Next time you race see if you can get some video of it.

batboy

iTrader: (6)

A) Nitto tires run narrow, so 255 is probably the same as a regular 245. I used Nitto drag radials one year and they suck compared to my current Mickey Thompson drag radials.

B) 13 psi is way too low for Nitto drag radials. You should only be dropping to 18-22 psi. You probably aren't even getting contact to the pavement with the middle of the tire.

C) Try using 3rd since you have an auto (leave the shift lever on 3).

D) TC off, good, at least you are doing one thing right.

You'll need to get those Nittos really hot. Do a burnout until you see a lot of smoke. Launch from an idle and roll into the throttle. If you're spinning, you ain't winning.