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Mod Guide for AutoX...
Here is a basic break down for F stock cars, which you are.
1. Tires, get some good R compound tires.
2. Front sway bar
3. Koni SA shocks with stock springs (can't change them in F stock)
4. Cat Back exhaust ( only if you want it, it is basically the only power mod allowed).
5. This is the most important, get some serious seat time. If possible have someone who drives a similiar car drive yours and you will see just how slow you are. Then start working your times down with experience. All the mods in the world won't make up for experience.
Also, I know several people that have placed at SCCA Nationals with the above set ups on their f bodies, though they were also 6 speeds. Don't let that auto discourage you from getting out there though.
For more in depth info, try fraxx.com, or corner carvers.
Josh
1. Tires, get some good R compound tires.
2. Front sway bar
3. Koni SA shocks with stock springs (can't change them in F stock)
4. Cat Back exhaust ( only if you want it, it is basically the only power mod allowed).
5. This is the most important, get some serious seat time. If possible have someone who drives a similiar car drive yours and you will see just how slow you are. Then start working your times down with experience. All the mods in the world won't make up for experience.
Also, I know several people that have placed at SCCA Nationals with the above set ups on their f bodies, though they were also 6 speeds. Don't let that auto discourage you from getting out there though.
For more in depth info, try fraxx.com, or corner carvers.
Josh
I wish I had an A4 for autocross duty, I hate short shifting into 2nd, but yet if I leave it in first it flat out hard to control....hell its still hard to control in 3rd. Also, go into the turns slow and gradualy accelerate out of them.
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Originally Posted by DesertFox
This is the most important, get some serious seat time. If possible have someone who drives a similiar car drive yours and you will see just how slow you are. Then start working your times down with experience. All the mods in the world won't make up for experience.
Also, ask that experienced autocrosser who drove your car for any advice on what to change as far as alignment/suspension settings are concerned.
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Originally Posted by DesertFox
If possible have someone who drives a similiar car drive yours and you will see just how slow you are. Then start working your times down with experience.
Hell, i let my buddy who drives a new GT have a run in my car and he spanked my best time so far that day on his first try. So I copied what he was doing and then went faster than he had by a couple seconds.
Would be very helpful to get an f-body guy in just to see how slow i really go haha.
The dude with the GT is encouraging me to stay within F-stock regulations (take off lid, etc) to give myself a better chance of competing, but to be honest, atm i'm just out there having fun. There are a couple meets next month in the area, so it should be great!
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Ah.... 1LE springs are only legal in a car that is completely converted to 1LE specs (including the bushings). Also 1LE's were not available in T-top configuration, or to my knowledge with the A4. So that wouldn't be technically legal in F-stock.
As for knowledge, it's out there. If nothing else I'm here and have a little experience with these cars (and others) and autocrossing.
As for knowledge, it's out there. If nothing else I'm here and have a little experience with these cars (and others) and autocrossing.
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looking at getting some suspension from you Sam. Not entirely sure what i want yet, but most likely order things in the next month if i dont need my knee surgery. If they operate on my knee, i won't be racing again til next year and will probably hold off.
Plus there is no rush, i want to make sure i only spend money once and get it right the first time.
Plus there is no rush, i want to make sure i only spend money once and get it right the first time.
Originally Posted by irnbru83
looking at getting some suspension from you Sam. Not entirely sure what i want yet, but most likely order things in the next month if i dont need my knee surgery. If they operate on my knee, i won't be racing again til next year and will probably hold off.
Plus there is no rush, i want to make sure i only spend money once and get it right the first time.
Plus there is no rush, i want to make sure i only spend money once and get it right the first time.
Another vote for F stock and seat time.
Originally Posted by DONAIMIAN
I wish I had an A4 for autocross duty, I hate short shifting into 2nd, but yet if I leave it in first it flat out hard to control....hell its still hard to control in 3rd. Also, go into the turns slow and gradualy accelerate out of them.
O yeah, another vote for seat time.....I can use a lot of that.
Anyways, after you spin out your first time...or second (ask me how I know) youll see just how many seconds youll knock off your time from just slowing down.
Anyways, after you spin out your first time...or second (ask me how I know) youll see just how many seconds youll knock off your time from just slowing down.
Originally Posted by Mojave
I can't stand auto-xing an automatic, give me a 6 spd any day of the week (unless its a built, manual valve body auto). I have run an auto-x entirely in first gear...the car REALLY jumps off the corners in first. Never had to shift to 3rd.
When I was out there that day I went about 2 seconds slower in 1st just from the amount of wheel spin, but then again that comes back to seat time.
Not saying that I would have to shift to 3rd, but when you have traction/lack of experience out there youll try anything to keep the power in check.
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i ran my A4 in 3 the whole time, but i found it was so much faster not to hammer it out of every corner. If i got on it hard coming out of the corners, the A4 would lag so bad and downshift hard, then try to get into 3rd, etc... If i eased out of the corners (still bookin' it, just not flooring it), it stayed in 2nd much longer and gave a much smoother acceleration.
it's really true, slow = fast.
it's really true, slow = fast.
If you want to keep your lid you could always just swap them out for auto xing and put the lid back on when you are done. It looks like that is your only mod so it shouldn't be that hard to stay f stock legal, if you wanted. we have some events coming up soon here in college station, and we have several good f body drivers if you wanted to get one of them to help you out a little bit. see tamscc.org.
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i was at the last CS practice run a few weeks ago, it was fun as hell.
Can you sand down the fins on the inside of the stock lid and ditch the bafflers and still stay f stock? i'm guessing not haha
Can you sand down the fins on the inside of the stock lid and ditch the bafflers and still stay f stock? i'm guessing not haha
There definitely seems to be more information available on the drag racing mods, but one of the reasons we don't have a list going here is because there are many bolt on mods that almost all of us would want to do for daily driver hp gains that would put you in different classes for auto-crossing.
Most of us that have the 300+rwhp array of bolt ons would find ourselves outclasses in the auto-crossing division that would put us in (unless you have a lot of seat time, etc.).
I definitely agree on the tires, seat time opinions given above. There's also a post of some of the things I did to prepare my car for some Road Atlanta track days events...
Most of us that have the 300+rwhp array of bolt ons would find ourselves outclasses in the auto-crossing division that would put us in (unless you have a lot of seat time, etc.).
I definitely agree on the tires, seat time opinions given above. There's also a post of some of the things I did to prepare my car for some Road Atlanta track days events...
Hey guys, I'm going AutoXing tomorrow at Warminster, PA in the Philladelphia SCCA event. I've been taking photos for them for awhlie and now I'm actually racing. Its a long course and they say top speed could be like 45-55mph in a part or two.
Now if I leave my car in ONE the whole time, like 60seconds of racing, could that damage the motor or anything if its revving up so high? If I'm up and down with the RPMs and then constant. What if I bounce it off the rev limiter acouple times and overrev? Could this really damage and hurt my car? Should I just leave it in TWO so I have a 2nd gear and no worries? I figured I'd do ONE so its not constantly changing from first to second on me.
It's a '98 Camaro Z28, 49K miles, A4, 2.73 gears with a DMH cutout and lid. Nothing fancy. Any advice or suggestions would be helpful.... (cept the jokes where F-body's aren't suppose to turn well) HAHA. Im doing it for fun.
Maybe ill just try the "drive" instead.
Now if I leave my car in ONE the whole time, like 60seconds of racing, could that damage the motor or anything if its revving up so high? If I'm up and down with the RPMs and then constant. What if I bounce it off the rev limiter acouple times and overrev? Could this really damage and hurt my car? Should I just leave it in TWO so I have a 2nd gear and no worries? I figured I'd do ONE so its not constantly changing from first to second on me.
It's a '98 Camaro Z28, 49K miles, A4, 2.73 gears with a DMH cutout and lid. Nothing fancy. Any advice or suggestions would be helpful.... (cept the jokes where F-body's aren't suppose to turn well) HAHA. Im doing it for fun.
Maybe ill just try the "drive" instead.
I'd say put it in 2nd and leave it there. I don't know much about autox in an automatic, but I definetley wouldnt leave it in 1st. I wouldn't do that in a stick, so no reason to in an auto. Bumping the limiter a few times won't hurt, it's what it's there for. You may think it's hurting or sound like it's hurting the motor, but it's there to prevent damage. It's not good to hold it there all day of course, but if you hit it at all on a course, it won't hurt anything.