Read all the post of people saying what 5.0s run with boltons and how they run against a ls.

 

That's what I'm saying making no sense lol

 

From my experience, the 5.0's run pretty damn good with minimal work. A friend of mine with muffler delete, intake and tune was consistently pulling cam only , stalled auto fbods.

 

5.0's are good for guys who don't know a lot about cars. They wake up well with simple mods but they run out of mods pretty quickly

 

You're right, they run decent. Some guys on here act like a bolt on ls1 can't run with one. A good ls1 with quality bolt ons and a 4000+ stall will run with and bolt on only 5.0. That same ls1 with cheap hci and a little weight loss and it takes spray or boost for a 5.0 to hang.

 

My bolt on ls1 thrashes the local bolt on 5.0's

 

Mine too man, and with my two sons in the back seat laughing. I love it. I usually have all out drag cars (4.90's in the 1/8) but bought a couple of ls cars to play with and my boys can ride with me. I am liking these things though. Love hearing about your kills man.

 

From a roll I would assume? The 4l60e is weird if you hit that dead spot around 40mph they kind of drag *** even with a stall. Not making excuses a race is a race.

 

It's the ratio split between 1st and 2nd. More stall or gear will help huge and further the raping of 5.hell no's.

 

Something is consistently fucked up about that lol.

 

Amen.

 

Troofs being spewed here.

 

even from a ricer roll he shouldnt be pulling any decent cam-only stalled f-body.

 

Seems like there is too much variance in "cam only" cars to say that for sure.

On one hand you've got the guys that choose a little 22X/22X baby cam with bargain bin headers and lid who technically meet the "cam only" criteria, but would have trouble with a stock 5.0. On another you've got the cars that have full and optimal boltons plus a high effort cam that are still called "cam only" but are FAR faster.

That's why I think this whole "FBO 5.bro vs cam only ls1" debate is kinda silly. Even the 5.bros have a lot of variance in how well their bolton cars run, but a "cam only" fbody could be anything from a ~110 to 125+mph trapping car. The argument goes either way depending on the setups.

It's pretty easy to see that these cars are very competitive, though. Coyote vs LS is the predominant subject of debate around here in the last few years. It wouldn't be that way if they weren't competitive.

 

I think you hit the nail on the head there. Every car is different. This bitchfest will never end though.

 

Nailed it. Well said.

 

I've said that before myself.....although no quite so eloquently.

 

I kind of and kind of don't agree with this. A person who doesn't know a lot about cars, shouldn't really be buying a Modular... If they ran out of mods so quickly though, then there wouldn't always be such a big debate about them.


Red is faster said it perfectly.

 

Seems to me that the coyote has much better heads and cams from the factory than the LS engines and doesn't have as much to gain from changing them (thus less meaningful mods than the LS), while being more "optimal" with just boltons. Are there any gains to be had in heads NA on those? What kind of gains with cams (assuming high effort NA cams)?

 

People have made over 500 wheel with a CJ setup, and cams. They can be made into some very nice N/A builds and run some very impressive times. The Coyote/Roadrunner heads are very nice and flow a damn good amount of CFM. The intake side on the Coyote heads flow more than the Ford GT's did.

However, my car will forever be stock heads and cams. I can run as fast as my heart desires with the stock heads and cams.