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Old 06-27-2017, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RedFuryZ28
You're the dumbass that thinks it's 4% of whatever your engine already makes.
Yep. Me and VP fuels, just a couple of dumbasses.

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YOU are the dumbass. Not VP fuels.

Show me ANYWHERE where is says that the 4% gain is 4% of your engine's power. I won't hold my breath.
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"C85 makes up to 4% more power and torque than convential E85"

Take what you made on your e85 and multiply by 1.04 for your 4% gain.

You are dumb as ****.
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Originally Posted by UltraZLS1
Just a quick google search shows countless links to people gaining nothing over pump e8

what I found as well, imagine Vp making claims their 1$15 a gallon fuel is worth power surely not marketing...


c85 should be more consistent. the pump can be from 51-85%.

A good batch of pump e85 at ~80%, which most stations have in the warmer months, should run damn near identical to c85.

whats funny is that bros don't even like to mention e85 over 93...but they are all over this c85 vs e85 when its not much different. heck they even try to downplay ftw purple over 93 lol. cant say im surprised

As far as the results...again...more bropocracy. 5th gens are turds...but they having a circle jerk over hanging with one with a holy grail cj twin tb build...shocked again
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
"C85 makes up to 4% more power and torque than convential E85"

Take what you made on your e85 and multiply by 1.04 for your 4% gain.

You are dumb as ****.
Literally HOW can you be this ******* retarded? c85 gains hardly anything over e85, jackass.

Again show anywhere that is says that the 4% is 4% of your engine's power??
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Careful, Ultra.

C85 makes near gains of ftw purple and lord knows your crew claims that is like adding a 50 pill.
That's not what im finding. Most of my searches people are claiming no gains over e85. ftw purple people rave about.
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
Lol, so first you try and make fun of VP for only gaining 4%, then you finally realize FTW gains about the same. Like I said. Whoops!! Nice back pedal.

I'm glad you figured out your mistake though, Jake still hasn't.
I didn't back pedal. Im not finding anywhere people being as happy with c85 as purple.

As far as the 4% thing. Im still not sure that's off of total engine output.

If you can prove otherwise great im all ears. Most people aren't impressed with it. Its for bracket racers since pump e85 is so inconsistent.
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It's not off engine output. Lol its 4% more than what you gain from e85. So if you gain 25whp from e85, you gain "up to" another 1whp with c85.

That's why you can't find anyone who actually had a significant gain from c85.
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No it's not, look at its spec sheet and compare it to ftw. Almost identical. Let's see some of these results you're talking about. Type it in on Google and it's all 4-8% of total engine output gains over e85.
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
No it's not, look at its spec sheet and compare it to ftw. Almost identical. Let's see some of these results you're talking about. Type it in on Google and it's all 4-8% of total engine output gains over e85.
Why don't YOU type it in and show us???
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Ftw purple only makes 5-7% over e85.
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Exhibit A. CTSV, gains 6.5% of total engine output over pump e85 for a 45 whp gain.
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That's after adding a "race tune", dumbfuck. And that's a boosted car too. Are you stoopid??
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C85 oxygen content vs other ethanol race fuels.
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Originally Posted by RedFuryZ28
That's after adding a "race tune", dumbfuck. And that's a boosted car too. Are you stoopid??
You have to retune for different fuel dumbfuck.
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Originally Posted by sw07gt
You have to retune for different fuel dumbfuck.
C85 didn't gain 45whp over e85, dumbfuck.
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Originally Posted by RedFuryZ28
Why don't YOU type it in and show us???
devils advocate I saw a CTSV ina search be 698whp go to 741whp I think, but that's boosted and they added 1 degree more timing, and the E was only 60% . Of course others chimed in they saw no difference as long as the E was quality coming from the pump. I think I would question what you would actually get away with on a run vs a steady state dyno pull...
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SW just proved himself wrong finally. C85 has 4% more oxygen content over e85.
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Originally Posted by TT427
devils advocate I saw a CTSV ina search be 698whp go to 741whp I think, but that's boosted and they added 1 degree more timing, and the E was only 60% . Of course others chimed in they saw no difference as long as the E was quality coming from the pump. I think I would question what you would actually get away with on a run vs a steady state dyno pull...
That 40+whp gain was after adding the race tune. And yes boosted cars obviously see more gains than NA.
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C85 gains 5% on a GTR over pump e85 tested at 85% ethanol content.

http://dsportmag.com/the-tech/max-out-e85-vs-c85/


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