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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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2002 F body M6

Modifications Include:

TrickFlow 215cc Cylinder Heads (61cc)
Vengeance Racing Vindicator Camshaft
Harland Sharp Roller Rockers
FAST 90mm Intake ported by Vengeance
Nick Williams 90mm Throttlebody
ASP UnderDrive pulley
Stainless 1 3/4 Longtubes w cats
Cutout
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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Very nice numbers, I have a couple questions. Were the trick flow heads out of the box or do they have further porting? What headgasket and did you flycut?
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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I'm assuming that's one of your bigger cams.

Do you have any dyno results cam only using VRX2, VRX3, and VRX4?
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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thats pretty bad ***, I want to keep my car sane but those #'s make me wanna go full hilt.... must not look at any more Vengence post......
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Very stout!!
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Very impressive. This is getting to sound like a broken record, but in a good way!

The torque at 3500 rpm varies quite a bit from the C5 graphs. What do you attribute to the C5s being so much stronger in the low and mid-range? The LG Pro Long Tubes? Higher compression? More squirrel mods? Regardless, this is an extremely strong combo.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Once again, those heads don't seem to be having any troubles flowing up top or down low; that's a loooooooooong torque curve.

That's exactly why I plan on going with that same Head/Intake set-up.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 03:40 PM
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THanx for all the compliments guys... To answer a couple of questions..


*The TrickFlow Heads are out of the box, no additional porting
*There is no need to flycut with the additional PV provided by the thicker TFS deck surface/ 13.5* valve angles
* Im sorry, I do not have results with any other camshafts right now... Most of the guys who are springing for the TFS heads want the baddest camshaft they can have to go with them.

Patrick... we actually completed a Z06 this morning and it makes more power under the curve than the F body, but they peak around the same #s.... I guess the Z06 exhaust/few extra bolt ons we were doing (IE lightweight clutch/electric waterpump etc etc) all made a few more ponies... Unfortunately we have not been able to duplicate the Z06 that made 521.... We have broke 500rwhp 4 times now with this combo with about another dozen or so in the 480s/490s....
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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By any chance did you check the pvc?
I so care to share?
I will be buying a set of the heads very soon.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance
THanx for all the compliments guys... To answer a couple of questions..


*The TrickFlow Heads are out of the box, no additional porting
*There is no need to flycut with the additional PV provided by the thicker TFS deck surface/ 13.5* valve angles
* Im sorry, I do not have results with any other camshafts right now... Most of the guys who are springing for the TFS heads want the baddest camshaft they can have to go with them.

Patrick... we actually completed a Z06 this morning and it makes more power under the curve than the F body, but they peak around the same #s.... I guess the Z06 exhaust/few extra bolt ons we were doing (IE lightweight clutch/electric waterpump etc etc) all made a few more ponies... Unfortunately we have not been able to duplicate the Z06 that made 521.... We have broke 500rwhp 4 times now with this combo with about another dozen or so in the 480s/490s....

Hey Ron It's Phil I talked with you a earlier about the vindicator for my 01 SS, I forgot to ask and you can shoot me a pm if you want about this. How much do yal charge for a tune, and instead of flycuttin .030 or .050 can I just use a thicker head gasket. Also will flycutting the pistons at .050 hurt my peformance when i go with a set ot TF's? or should i stick with .050
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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Those are some nice numbers. You guys continue to put out some stout machines.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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Sweet Numbers!!!
What is the point of havin cats if you are runnin that head and cam set-up?..Get those things off there and get yourself and EWP!..That should get you pretty damn close to 500...
Vengeance, you guys/gals are doin an awesome job!..When I finally get my ride I might have to take a trip out to you guys from Cali...Very impressive...

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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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Just curious...Is that through the stock 10 bolt?..

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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ron@Vengeance
THanx for all the compliments guys... To answer a couple of questions..


*The TrickFlow Heads are out of the box, no additional porting
*There is no need to flycut with the additional PV provided by the thicker TFS deck surface/ 13.5* valve angles
* Im sorry, I do not have results with any other camshafts right now... Most of the guys who are springing for the TFS heads want the baddest camshaft they can have to go with them.

Patrick... we actually completed a Z06 this morning and it makes more power under the curve than the F body, but they peak around the same #s.... I guess the Z06 exhaust/few extra bolt ons we were doing (IE lightweight clutch/electric waterpump etc etc) all made a few more ponies... Unfortunately we have not been able to duplicate the Z06 that made 521.... We have broke 500rwhp 4 times now with this combo with about another dozen or so in the 480s/490s....
Thanks for the reply, those TFS heads are just sick!
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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id be happy with those numbers if it was my car....that is if i still ran a 346
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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how much does this setup cost roughly ,parts only,
ive not seen anything but strong #s from this setup
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 07:12 PM
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Whats the compression ratio on that set up?
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Very impressive. This is getting to sound like a broken record, but in a good way!

The torque at 3500 rpm varies quite a bit from the C5 graphs. What do you attribute to the C5s being so much stronger in the low and mid-range? The LG Pro Long Tubes? Higher compression? More squirrel mods? Regardless, this is an extremely strong combo.
When I switched from dual cutouts to TD's out the rear, I noticed my car picked up a bit of low end and a little up up top. This was going from cut outs off of each collector (basically open headers) to an X pipe run over the axle.Top end HP stayed the same but I picked up a few FTLB's. The car drove smoother down low and picked up more overall power. This might make a difference since the vette has duals and and this f-body is still using a Y pipe
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Good job yet again. Y'all are actually startin' to get good at this stuff.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Man i cant wait till i bring my car there on May 21st. I so wanna bring it right now but i cant get off work til then. I also found out theres going to be a f-body meet in atlanta that weekend when i come back to pick it up, you bringing anything out there Ron? I may just stay the weekend and go, but if your goin i'll follow you out there.
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