LS1TECH - Camaro and Firebird Forum Discussion

Small Block & Big Block Chevy Specific Mouse & Rat Motor Discussion & Conversions

Need help picking out a stall

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 10:30 AM
Share
  #1  
LSGUNSS's Avatar
LSGUNSS
Thread Starter
formerly 2000blackcamaross (6-25-2013)
15 Year Member
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
From: Drivers seat in Centralia, Mo
Default Need help picking out a stall
The Car is a 1981 Camaro. The problem I have now is the stall. When I am cruising down the highway the car is turning over 4000rpms when doing 70MPH. My question for you guys is, what stall should I run? I want the car to be streetable (go on a cruse) and still have performance. I know that I am going to give up some performance to get the streetablity but I would like to be able to drive my car around town and go on a cruse every now and then.

Thanks

Motor specs:
406ci
9.5:1 compression

Dart iron eagle heads

Cam:
intake lift .540
Intake duration 242
Exhaust lift .562
Exhaust duration 248
Lobe separation 110

single plane intake
Holley 750 DP
Accel Distributer with supper coil
Accel 9MM wires

Trans specs:
Built TH400
This trans has went 9's in another car with no problem

Rear specs:
Detroit locker
355 gears
15" wheels
Reply
0
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 03:13 PM
Share
  #2  
ZONES89RS's Avatar
ZONES89RS
In-Zane Moderator
15 Year Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 11,941
Likes: 33
From: Conroe, Texas
Default
3000 should be fine, 3200 is easier to find, what does the car stall to hitting the brake before it tries to spin?
Reply
0
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 03:32 PM
Share
  #3  
LSGUNSS's Avatar
LSGUNSS
Thread Starter
formerly 2000blackcamaross (6-25-2013)
15 Year Member
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
From: Drivers seat in Centralia, Mo
Default
Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
3000 should be fine, 3200 is easier to find, what does the car stall to hitting the brake before it tries to spin?
Right now it will stall up around 3200-3500. It just seems like too much. I was thinking about going with a 2800 stall, I was thinking that it might be better for the street. What do you think?
Reply
0
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 04:58 PM
Share
  #4  
LSGUNSS's Avatar
LSGUNSS
Thread Starter
formerly 2000blackcamaross (6-25-2013)
15 Year Member
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
From: Drivers seat in Centralia, Mo
Default
Bump.
Reply
0
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 05:56 PM
Share
  #5  
moge11's Avatar
moge11
TECH Resident
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 814
Likes: 0
From: Champaign IL
Default
what tach are u using?? stock or aftermarket?
Reply
0
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:08 PM
Share
  #6  
LSGUNSS's Avatar
LSGUNSS
Thread Starter
formerly 2000blackcamaross (6-25-2013)
15 Year Member
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
From: Drivers seat in Centralia, Mo
Default
Stock tach isn't worth dick, and stopped working about six years ago. It is an aftermarket autometer.
Reply
0
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 06:27 PM
Share
  #7  
ZONES89RS's Avatar
ZONES89RS
In-Zane Moderator
15 Year Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 11,941
Likes: 33
From: Conroe, Texas
Default
Alright, i am on track then. A 4000 stall will brake to 3500 give or take weight and engine power. Now a 3000 stall will go to 2750 or so depending on weight and power. So, if that helps you any, the stall advertised speed is usually a "flash" speed. It will hit its advertised flash from idle, but braking it will only go about 3-500 RPM less, maybe more if it is a loosed stall. You have a 3800-4000 it sounds like to me. A good 3000 stall should have you cruising about 2500 RPM.
Reply
0

Trending Topics

Old Dec 22, 2008 | 07:08 PM
Share
  #8  
FTICONVERTERS's Avatar
FTICONVERTERS
LS1Tech Sponsor
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,376
Likes: 96
From: Deland, FL
Default
We can build you a converter that will do what you want it to do. We run 35-3600 converters in 3 speeds all the time on the street with great results.They drive nice and tight until you stomp it. We offer several different models ranging from 295.00 to 795.00. Go to our website and look or give me a call at 1-866-726-8358 mon-fr 8-5 est.

thanks,
Greg
__________________
FTI COMPETITION CONVERTERS AND TRANSMISSIONS
"IT'S NOT CHEATING, IT'S THE COMPETITIVE EDGE."
1-866-726-8358
info@ftiperformance.com
FTIPerformance.com
FTI Converter build sheet

Reply
0
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-5

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-7

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-8

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 08:01 PM
Share
  #9  
LSGUNSS's Avatar
LSGUNSS
Thread Starter
formerly 2000blackcamaross (6-25-2013)
15 Year Member
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
From: Drivers seat in Centralia, Mo
Default
Originally Posted by FTICONVERTERS
We can build you a converter that will do what you want it to do. We run 35-3600 converters in 3 speeds all the time on the street with great results.They drive nice and tight until you stomp it. We offer several different models ranging from 295.00 to 795.00. Go to our website and look or give me a call at 1-866-726-8358 mon-fr 8-5 est.

thanks,
Greg
Sounds good I will give you a call asap. Do you have lock up converters that would work on my TH400? I would like to have one to lock up just in case I wanted to drive down the highway for awhile (50 miles or so).

Thanks
Reply
0
Old Dec 22, 2008 | 08:08 PM
Share
  #10  
LSGUNSS's Avatar
LSGUNSS
Thread Starter
formerly 2000blackcamaross (6-25-2013)
15 Year Member
iTrader: (41)
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 605
Likes: 0
From: Drivers seat in Centralia, Mo
Default
Originally Posted by ZONES89RS
Alright, i am on track then. A 4000 stall will brake to 3500 give or take weight and engine power. Now a 3000 stall will go to 2750 or so depending on weight and power. So, if that helps you any, the stall advertised speed is usually a "flash" speed. It will hit its advertised flash from idle, but braking it will only go about 3-500 RPM less, maybe more if it is a loosed stall. You have a 3800-4000 it sounds like to me. A good 3000 stall should have you cruising about 2500 RPM.
Thanks this helped me out a lot. I was told that the converter in my car was a 3000 stall when I bought the converter from a local guy. When I installed it I knew it was not a 3000 stall. I hate people sometimes.

Thanks again.
Reply
0
Old Dec 23, 2008 | 12:16 AM
Share
  #11  
ZONES89RS's Avatar
ZONES89RS
In-Zane Moderator
15 Year Member
iTrader: (25)
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 11,941
Likes: 33
From: Conroe, Texas
Default
No problem, if FTI can build you a converter to your specs as they say, that is what i would to, 3200 is really my personal choice, is your TH400 a lock up trans?
Reply
0
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 07:19 PM
Share
  #12  
FTICONVERTERS's Avatar
FTICONVERTERS
LS1Tech Sponsor
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,376
Likes: 96
From: Deland, FL
Default
there is no lock up th 400 available .give me a call and i can explain the differences between the models or go to our website and look.

Thanks,
Greg
__________________
FTI COMPETITION CONVERTERS AND TRANSMISSIONS
"IT'S NOT CHEATING, IT'S THE COMPETITIVE EDGE."
1-866-726-8358
info@ftiperformance.com
FTIPerformance.com
FTI Converter build sheet

Reply
0
Old Dec 26, 2008 | 08:17 PM
Share
  #13  
JUICED96Z's Avatar
JUICED96Z
TECH Addict
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 2,970
Likes: 1
From: Indy
Default
I have a COAN 3800 that stalls a little higher on the bottle. It was great on the street, pretty tight and screamed at WOT.

With a 28 inch tall tire and 4.10's I was in the low 3,000 RPM range at 65mph. I want to say 3,200.

As far as I know it will work for A SBC type motor also. Ill sell it for 300 something shipped (what COAN is selling them for). It took a 300 shot no problem and lots of beatings no problem.
If you are interested I can send you the numbers on it.
Reply
0
Back to Subforum
Small Block & Big Block Chevy Specific
View Next Unread
406 and a turbo bad idea?




Advanced Search

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:51 PM.

story-0
Topdon ONE vs. Artidiag 800 BT2: Which is the Diagnostic Tablet For You?

Slideshow: We take a close look at the ONE and Artidiag 800BT2 diagnostic tools from Topdon and the reasons to buy one over the other.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 11:05:11


VIEW MORE
story-1
Gas Monkey Built a 6-Wheel Ferrari Testarossa With a Corvette LT4 Engine

Slideshow: The controversial Ferrari F6 swaps its original flat-12 for a Corvette Z06-derived LT4 V8 and sends power to four rear wheels through a custom-built drivetrain.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-26 18:23:54


VIEW MORE
story-2
7 Most Reliable High-Performance Engines GM Has Ever Built

Slideshow:These GM engines didn't just make huge power, they survived abuse, boost, track days, and six-digit mileage with a reputation for refusing to quit.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-21 16:45:27


VIEW MORE
story-3
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-4
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-5
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-8
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-9
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE