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Old 08-08-2011, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by poltergeist 02
i think he should buy them. i had a set of those on my 80 malibu 355 sbc. it was pushing 350hp. sure there are better heads but if your looking for a budget build then they would be great for you.
Depends on how budget he wants to go. If he gets the fuelie heads he would have to get them checked out so that costs money on top of the price of buying them. Then what if they need work? With today's cams more than likely they will need a spring change regardless.

You can buy a set of upgraded vortecs that can hold .550 lift for $500.00. Thats new springs already in that price. If the OP is into the nostalgia thing then get the fuelie heads, if not I say get the vortecs for the cheapie budget.
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Summit has there own set of Aluminum heads for $995 a set w/ everything !
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Originally Posted by blk/slvr02ss
Summit has there own set of Aluminum heads for $995 a set w/ everything !
For that price I would just add a 100 bucks and get the Trickflows.

Get the Patriots, 185cc runner for 795 for the set.
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Id suggest a nice set of pro comp aluminum heads for like 630 and a good 600 carb and 4bbl intake. Dont really need anything expensive do you? 64cc heads will do a lot
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Originally Posted by 64nova_wagon
Id suggest a nice set of pro comp aluminum heads for like 630 and a good 600 carb and 4bbl intake. Dont really need anything expensive do you? 64cc heads will do a lot
That's cool and all but I would rather see the OP spend his money an American product, not Pro Comp. Plus their heads have been known to have an inferior casting.
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sOME OF THE OLD HEADS FROM 3 YEARS AGO DID. But when it comes to street performance and my check book, cheap quality wins.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
Depends on how budget he wants to go. If he gets the fuelie heads he would have to get them checked out so that costs money on top of the price of buying them. Then what if they need work? With today's cams more than likely they will need a spring change regardless.

You can buy a set of upgraded vortecs that can hold .550 lift for $500.00. Thats new springs already in that price. If the OP is into the nostalgia thing then get the fuelie heads, if not I say get the vortecs for the cheapie budget.
This^^

OP are you rebuilding the entire engine or just doing heads/cam?
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Originally Posted by 64nova_wagon
sOME OF THE OLD HEADS FROM 3 YEARS AGO DID. But when it comes to street performance and my check book, cheap quality wins.
Performance, cheap and quality don't go in the same sentence when it comes to Pro Comps.

The vortec's will damn near run door to door with the Pro Comps.

As far as a checkbook, I will GLADLY write out a bigger check for an American produced head from my checkbook, but thats me. You do what you want to do.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
Performance, cheap and quality don't go in the same sentence when it comes to Pro Comps.

The vortec's will damn near run door to door with the Pro Comps.

As far as a checkbook, I will GLADLY write out a bigger check for an American produced head from my checkbook, but thats me. You do what you want to do.
The intent was quality and cheap priced. And saves 50 lbs over iron vortecs.
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Originally Posted by 64nova_wagon
The intent was quality and cheap priced. And saves 50 lbs over iron vortecs.
If you think they are a quality product then good for you. Cheap, yes very much so, but remember.....you get what you pay for.

It doesn't matter what they weigh though, the vortec's are cheaper than them and still run door to door with them.
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Originally Posted by 87silverbullet
That's cool and all but I would rather see the OP spend his money an American product, not Pro Comp. Plus their heads have been known to have an inferior casting.
Those Patriots that you're hot for are the same chinese heads as the Pro Comps that you're against. Patriot does the same thing as the ebay guys... They get bare Pro Comp castings then put their own hardware on them. Only difference is that Patriot gets $200 more for theirs and they have an American-sounding name.
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Originally Posted by Jim85IROC
Those Patriots that you're hot for are the same chinese heads as the Pro Comps that you're against. Patriot does the same thing as the ebay guys... They get bare Pro Comp castings then put their own hardware on them. Only difference is that Patriot gets $200 more for theirs and they have an American-sounding name.
I mentioned Patriots one time and if you go back to that post I made, I mention the Trickflows first.

Patriot has to be doing something different to their heads because I have seen a set of Pro Comps do poorly compared to other SBC aluminum heads and Patriots run just a little bit behind the same set of heads.

Any proof that Patriot and Pro Comp use the same casting?

Edit: Patriot is casted overseas and finished here in Alabama. They are basically Alabama Cylinder Head. If you go to Alabama Cylinder Head's site and click on performance it links you to Patriot. Pro Comps on the other hand from what I can tell everything is done overseas.

Still doesn't make one better than the other.

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Originally Posted by Jim85IROC
Those Patriots that you're hot for are the same chinese heads as the Pro Comps that you're against. Patriot does the same thing as the ebay guys... They get bare Pro Comp castings then put their own hardware on them. Only difference is that Patriot gets $200 more for theirs and they have an American-sounding name.
Ha.. about time someone helped me out.> Same thing. Just have to built them right.> Buy hey, you wanna speed 600 more silver! Your a good american..
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Originally Posted by 64nova_wagon
Ha.. about time someone helped me out.> Same thing. Just have to built them right.> Buy hey, you wanna speed 600 more silver! Your a good american..
I sure am
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Trickflow>procomp/patriot
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So, howa about some updates from the OP? Any luck in the search..



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