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That's a similar setup as to what I was thinking of running. Crazy that you say that stuff. Except for the AFR heads I was considering the BMF heads that they offer in jegs since they come with a spring with a max lift of .880" I can use a big cam. Even the cam, I was considering something similar. About the vacuum pump, I plan to run this motor on the street at least on the weekends (the local cruise and what-not) and I read up on the pumps and they said they're not really not meant for the street so I'm not sure. That and they're expensive . Thanks for the help.

 

thats about hte stupidest thing i have heard. you wont need anything that wild to run mid 6's in a good car. my "mild" ( by this guys description) motor will easily go in the mid 6 range in a good car as soon as i get one . if your wanting to drive it on the street you dont need anymore then 12:1 compresion and at that you will have to mix your fuel. with the setup this guy gave you will need a wicked suspensionm setup and some big tires to even think about hooking . mine spins through first on slick ( 26x10.5x15) . a decent set of heads and around a .690-.700 lift solid roller with anywhere from 266-280 at.050 will run GREAT . my heads flow about 320-330 with 2.19-1.88 valves. no need for that wild *** combo to have a badd *** motor

p.s. i dont use a vacuum pump just a canister and i dont even have that hooked up yet . drive it every where with iorn heads and stock radiator and it runs a 190 degrees at the most

 

By no means am I thrashing you but there's a guy at my local dragstrip in a '69 Camaro (which is what I am building) that runs a 540 with nitrous in it and runs low nines that has leafs springs and cal-tracs. I do know what you mean though by upgrading the suspension

 

and i bet they are after market leaf's also . and i would bet he has and bad *** set of drag shocks on all 4 corners not to mention a set of good springs in the front . all that adds up , its alot easier to take a stock supension car ,take hte sway bars off and maybe a set of drag shocks. not to mention it always looks better on a small tire .

oh and what size tire is the guy running on the camaro ??

 

I see your point..As for the the tire, I believe that it is a 29.5x10.5. He runs in this Hot Streetcar class at our local strip that mandates a slick with a contact patch no greater than 10.5". That's if you decide to run a slick. A DOT tire is different.

 

And you said what I wrote was the stupidest thing you have ever heard??? Are you actually saying a stock headed (Ported or not) 12:1 motor is going to make 900 hp?????? you cant be sober AND serious....I didn't mention an E.T. I mentioned a power level, your an idiot, learn to read then repond with something that makes sense to what you are trying to discredit for some unknown reason (Why is that again?).
And you mentioned a Vacuum canister....what does that have to do with a vacuum pump? Have you ever built a REAL motor? Let's see,
Vacuum pump: Creates CRANKCASE vacuum to allow rings to seal under extreme internal pressures and windage.
Vacuum Canister: so you can run power brakes with a healthy cam......why was it you compare them again? (Or brought one up with another?)

Why are you talking about a combination that you admittingly haven't proven yet, Why did you join the conversation with nothing but an unproven opinion to add? Don't know if you noticed, but me and 69 chevy are on the same page.

As you reference suspension, that is subject to the vehicle and application, I doubt you would believe me but there may be people trying to listen.... try a 68 Firebird with a small block using STOCK rear leafs, 50/50 in back, 90/10 in the front with Moroso trick front springs, no sway bar going 11.00's on the motor and 9.60's on spray (Quarter mile of course). In the neighborhood of what you would need for 6's in the eight.....bet it put out more then a ported stock head 12:1 big block? you'd be right. If he had better suspension and drivetrain would he have gone faster? yes! Would it be as easy to bolt back in the sway bar and remain relatively comfortable to drive around town, probably not (Unless you got into ridiculous money). What I am trying to point out, when it comes to ET you have to look at more then just power, that is why I addressed the power output alone, because there are less variables.....he asked a question, he got an answer, and please do not attempt to tell anyone your motor makes with-in 150hp of 900, unless you left out a blower or something....


BTW 69chevy, I checked my Paypal, where's it at, LOL

 

I see both of your all's points. But 73ss, I kinda like to show people, that I know such as close friends or my dads friends for that matter, that I can do what they don't think is right in a way. I am not saying that I am building a race motor just to prove everybody wrong but I can survive in conditions that they think I wouldn't and couldn't hack. For example, here in Harlingen, it's summer all year (exaggeration) such as right now during the day it's usually close to 103 and it's been like that for a little while. Now, the 69 corvette in my sig DOES NOT have A/C of any sort, just windows and a nice little stout 350. I get a lot of people saying that that kind of car is not for daily driving, etc, and that i wouldn't hack. I drove that car as soon as I got my license for a year and a half until I got the S-10 in the sig WHICH does not have A/C either and i've been driving the S-10 since. Having no A/C doesn't bother me and harsh driving conditions are a normal for me. So having a high compression motor that pumps out a lot of power wouldn't hurt much. Also, I'm sure where other people live, stores and such are a far drive but where I'm from, the store is a 2 minute drive, the gas station is 2 blocks away and the local cruise is about 3 blocks from me . So having a wild motor as a daily driver shouldn't be a problem There's no bashing here, just facts about me. Let's just say that I'm driven by the passion for cars.

The paypal didn't go through?

 

[QUOTE=69chevy] Let's just say that I'm driven by the passion for cars.QUOTE]

One of the best quotes ever....

 

Haha, yeah it is huh. You have my permission to use it.

 

ok well i will thank you for teaching me somthing . but i dont see the point of having to run a pump just to get your rings to seal, its stupid . refering to what you said about me not doing this much if your talking about race motors then your right . i dont build race cars only street cars . i dont see the point of having **** like that on a street car so there for i dont car for that stuff . and now as for my heads . you shouldnot be saying anything about them . yes they are a set of " stock" iorn heads that have been sent to air flow research and had a large about of work done to them . so you really cant say **** abuot my heads oh and if your going to give definitions for parts makesure you get it right . the pump doesnt create high internal pressure . it makes a large amount of vaccuum pressure in the crank case to help seal the rings when you run LOW tension rings . no need to run them if your using a high tension ring

 

Somebody needs too


You would be right if that were the soul purpose, but it isn't, it is to lower resistance and windage.

Then why are you talking?

OK, Racecar or not, 900hp can only be made with a certain level of parts, I never said this is a streetcar, good point you made there

Wow, that is amazing, trust me when I say 320-330 is good for a stockported head and I do not doubt it....are they going to support a 900hp N/A 496, uhhhhh NO! Do me a favor, call AFR today (Or any other manufacturer for this point to be made) and ask if they hold a candle to what is currently offerred, any guesses on the answer? how is that 220 cfm exhaust port treatin ya?

Wow, if you are going to try and correct my definition, read it first... I will Italisize and bold the important parts....

Vacuum pump: Creates CRANKCASE vacuum to allow rings to seal under extreme internal pressures and windage.

Sooooooo, once again, great point! You might want to re-read all of what I said to you, it goes over how to read, then post. Helps to keep you from looking like a jackass....


wanna try again....

 

wait, I just realized you said this.........I wont even comment.

 

did isay my motor makes 900 n/a ???

 

Sup guys , I build an 498 CI BBC for my friend about a month ago and it made a little over 700 hp and that was with the carb rich and pump gas . It is an nice street engine and it cost less then $3500 to build (well , thats because i did the machining myself ) and thats including some merlin/grumpi jenkins iron heads that was just mild ported by my friend and that flow around 390 cfm .
We used a new 200 bucks crank ( don't even remember the name of the crank ) eagle rods , and je piston . The combination was 4.250 stroke and 4.320 bore ( .070 over ) . We put milodon splayed caps . The cam was 266/276 dur@.050 and close to 700 lift which is prety small for that CI but this guy wants to have street machine . The compresion was 11:1 . This engine pulled over 7 grand with no problem and made peak power at 6900 rpm . if you have good heads , you make good power . So spend some money on good heads .
Later

 

I'm sure the machining yourself part saved you guys a lot of money. Unfortunately, that's what i'm trying to get into to school for . That's not a bad sounding motor though. Sounds like a bad enough street motor to scare some people.