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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 09:35 AM
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I bought some new stuff..
The Shocks will be here before the end of the week, and the Bar will be here sometime next week.

QA1 REAR COIL OVER SHOCKS


UMI PERFORMANCE DOUBLE-ADJUSTABLE PANHARD BAR, New Item
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 09:42 AM
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What springs do you have in the front? From what I've always been told, front shocks are more important that the rears.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 09:54 AM
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I still have Eibachs in the Front..I'm looking into that one here soon. I'm goin to try disconnecting the Sway Bar and seeing how much of an improvement that does.

This is next..

http://www.wolferacecraft.com/detail.aspx?ID=234
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 10:12 AM
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pretty coil overs...
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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The fronts will make the big difference. I'm thinking wheels up once those go in? I don't know that the backs will do a whole lot for you. Your Eibachs were already pretty stiff.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 01:17 PM
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Why the coilovers? You probably just put yourself out of a lot of stock suspension classes but I guess you're just going to the track for tnt.

The panhard bar is nice but other than allowing you to center the rear under the car isn't going to net you much if any time wise.

As stated, you would have been better off with some replacement front shocks/springs. Either the QA1-R's or Afco's if you can swing them and add the correct front springs to go with them.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 01:01 AM
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Why the coilovers? You probably just put yourself out of a lot of stock suspension classes but I guess you're just going to the track for tnt.

The panhard bar is nice but other than allowing you to center the rear under the car isn't going to net you much if any time wise.

As stated, you would have been better off with some replacement front shocks/springs. Either the QA1-R's or Afco's if you can swing them and add the correct front springs to go with them.
I'm pretty much going for time and braggin rights..I don't have any intention to Bracket Race it.

I beg to differ about a time gain..getting that ***-end dialed in will help me launch straighter..I'm having some issues with it going to the right out of the Hole.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 01:05 AM
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I love my QA1's, they do help!

This should help a little more too, just got it today.



I love my Wolfe 6 point too, their stuff fits very well and looks really clean!

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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I'm pretty much going for time and braggin rights..I don't have any intention to Bracket Race it.

I beg to differ about a time gain..getting that ***-end dialed in will help me launch straighter..I'm having some issues with it going to the right out of the Hole.
Merv, you may want to pay attention. Jeff T knows about suspension.

have you dialed in the pinion angle for the track?

with slicks you should not have any problem hooking at the track

My TA 1.45 60fted on stock suspension
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 07:48 PM
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I'm listenin..I was just throwin out my thought about it.

Pinion Angle is set -2* with the UMI Torque Arm I have.

I need to get everything working together..then hopefully it will get out of the hole..
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 08:23 PM
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I would keep your same rear shocks, buy fronts and a drag bar and some controm arm relocators.
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Old Feb 20, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I'm pretty much going for time and braggin rights..I don't have any intention to Bracket Race it.

I beg to differ about a time gain..getting that ***-end dialed in will help me launch straighter..I'm having some issues with it going to the right out of the Hole.
the panhard bar is not the the reason why u are pulling to the right out of the hole u need to get an adjustable anti roll bar since you are get all the soild rodend suspension i would check out wolfrace craft anti roll bar for the
our cars
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by the_merv
I'm pretty much going for time and braggin rights..I don't have any intention to Bracket Race it.

I beg to differ about a time gain..getting that ***-end dialed in will help me launch straighter..I'm having some issues with it going to the right out of the Hole.
Who said anything about bracket racing?

Not going straight on launch could be several things. What's the air pressure in your drive tires right before a run? You did check it right? Does the rear have an open diff, limited slip or spool? Also, what's the roll out or circumference on your drive tires?

I understand that all the suspension stuff works together to complete the whole car and you have to start some place with it...My only point was your money would have probably been better spent on front shocks/springs at this time.
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Old Feb 21, 2008 | 10:50 AM
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I would assume you already have a good set of subframe connectors as well. My car has dipped as low as 1.44 with (worn out) stock shocks at all four corners. It seems like the cage helped, it was in the low-mid 1.50's before and has consistently pulled 1.47-1.49 since.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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The Rear is 26" Tires..and it's a Posi. Tires were at 15 psi, both sides.

I don't have Sub-Frames in it yet..they will go on with the Cage.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 05:07 AM
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All the posi means is it allows you to be a one-tire-frier whenever you need both to spin. Even the baddest "posi" units will fail.

you need an adjustable torque arm, adjustable front struts (even as "inexpensive" as qa1s as mentioned) and a nice anti-roll bar in the rear suspension. Subframe connectors are mandatory and a 6pt bar will help as well.

I understand you want to defend the purchases you made, but you gotta listen to what works for the "least" amount of money. If you have a big enough converter that'll put you in the 1.4 60' range all day long, even on drag radials. (no, I'm not talking about Nittos or BFGs)

And Bracket racing has no rules, we're talking about heads up racing.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 08:55 AM
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I have the Adjustable T/A already on it..once I get the Rear QA1's in I will buy some adjustable Struts for the front and start messing with it all to get it dialed in.
I haven't disconnected the Front Sway Bar on any of these passes..so hopefully that will make a bit of a difference.

Anyone have a link to an Anti-Roll Bar..isn't that just the Rear Sway Bar?
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 09:15 AM
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http://www.wolferacecraft.com/detail.aspx?ID=217

I've used that one in the past and it's a pretty nice piece. Take the front sway bar off as well as the front mounting brackets that are attached to the frame. Once you get a drag bar on the rear you wont really miss the front bar on the street.
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 12:40 PM
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Anyone have pics of it on a Car?
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Old Feb 22, 2008 | 12:58 PM
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Here it is installed on a 9" housing that's out of the car. The forward arms attach to the frame rail via endlinks and some welded on tabs. The whole set-up pictured is for sale (minus brakes) btw.

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