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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 06:51 AM
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I saw a convoy of 5 tanker trucks on I-285....

I guess it won't be long before everything's back to normal...

Kinda makes you wonder about how bad the future can get in just a month's time of "dry country" Imagine no electricity..... and no answers...

Guns, ammo, water, food will be big sellers.... sex too.
WE STACKED UP ON GUNS AND AMMO WHEN CLINTON WENT INTO OPFFICE THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE LETTING MORE LESS QUALITY GAS INTO ATLANTA UNTIL OCT 12 SO THAT WE WILL HAVE IT IT JUST WONT BE UP TO PAR AS WHAT ATL IS USE TO.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:14 AM
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Still no end in sight here. I was able to wait in line for an hour last night at 11pm to only get a rationed 10 gallons of gas. Two gas stations had gas this morning but again the lines were .5 mile long going both ways, infact the congestion from one of the gas station runs into the lines of the other. The mayor here said that it will be 7-10 days before it returns to normal. Our news stated last night that the D.O.T. actually said to go to South Carolina to get our gas. Schools are starting to cancel sporting events up here, and police are having to maintain crowd control at gas stations. Not trying to stir up anything just explaining the situation up here. I realize that WNC is one of the lowest prorities of the state, but there is not one excuse for this. There will definately be some elected officals seeking employment at the end of this term.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:37 AM
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wow... maybe i shouldnt move back down to ga next week... i got gas yesterday here in okc for 3.19/gal... filled up the jeep....first in quickly out... there isnt anything like that out here...
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:46 AM
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Maybe all the bama fans wont be able to come to the Ga game sat cause of gas and i can get their tickets for cheap
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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Still no end in sight here. I was able to wait in line for an hour last night at 11pm to only get a rationed 10 gallons of gas. Two gas stations had gas this morning but again the lines were .5 mile long going both ways, infact the congestion from one of the gas station runs into the lines of the other. The mayor here said that it will be 7-10 days before it returns to normal. Our news stated last night that the D.O.T. actually said to go to South Carolina to get our gas. Schools are starting to cancel sporting events up here, and police are having to maintain crowd control at gas stations. Not trying to stir up anything just explaining the situation up here. I realize that WNC is one of the lowest prorities of the state, but there is not one excuse for this. There will definately be some elected officals seeking employment at the end of this term.
LOL we know this is George Bush because he caused the hurricane.

while it sucks, it is not the falt of any elected offical, it is because of a act of nature and it will happen again.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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Now is not the time or the place to educate those of you that do not understand, it has every bit to do with elected officals. But I'll give you the quick run around. You are blind if you do not think that our government wants us to be dependant upon oil, they tax it and make money from it. All be it they use the tax revenue for roads and infrastructure but it frees up other assets for them to spend. What other form of transportation have they offered us? Do research and see why we aren't able to buy the new Ford car that gets 65 mpg on deisel here in the states but they can in Europe.

What's funny is we had more supply before Ike than we did before Katrina. Also, Katrina had a more direct impact on supply than did Ike, based upon the location of the oil rigs. So it doesn't take much to figure out that the impact we feel should be far less with Ike than Katrina, but it is the other way around. I guess thats not so funny.

Also they interviewed on WLOS one of the managers at the pipeline in Spartanburg, and he admitted that their holding tanks were full, they are just not releasing them. When asked, "how much do those tanks hold", the manager strategically diclined to comment. Sounds like they are trying to drive up demand yet again, to keep the prices high. Simple economics really. The problem is this form of economics is starting to mess with peoples lives and should be stopped, instead we are found sitting on our hands in the office in the capital building.

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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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I guess thats my personality though, I really try to figure out why things happen instead of taking the first thing I hear.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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And, I guess the "Govt" said lets just mess with a few states on the East Coast. Let's leave the the rest of the country alone and let them buy all the gas they want for $3.19-$3.79 a gallon. Hmmm interesting . Nope, just looks like you guys caused the scare yourselves. Don't rush out and buy gas. Only buy it when you need it. Those of us in the areas where the Hurricanes hit, got gas before the storms and got the heck out of dodge. After the storms (except Galveston-Houston area) we got right back to normal. Other than power loss, water loss, damage to homes, etc. But, I suppose the "Govt" meant to leave power off for a week or two in order to drive up gas prices.

Whatever, blame who you want. No matter what, I work for the President/Govt, and will continue to run with whatever marching orders I'm given. And, thank God for the wonderful Country I live in instead of blaming it for all my problems.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 12:16 PM
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Even the best country in the world is not perfect, but that doesn't mean we stop striving for it.

Power was lost as well during Katrina, it still doesn't answer the question why is there less supply now, when we had more supply to begin with? Do your research.

I know I am speaking more out of frustration now than anything, but in my situation I am tired of being pumped full of B.S. I don't demand answers anymore, there are as many answers as there are opinions, I want the truth.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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There isn't a supply problem per say. During Katrina, there were lines for gas all across the country for a couple of days, until everyone was reassured that there was plenty of gas. Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana had lines for gas for a couple of weeks. How do I know? I was stationed in Georgia and had to rush right down to Pensecola, then on to New Orleans for Rescue Missions.

This time, nobody from the Hurricane hit areas or across the country got scared. So, there is plenty of fuel. However, folks from Georgia, Tenn., and NC did get scared, and killed your stock. So, the Tenn. pipeline is having to run at full capacity. The rest of the country is fine. I did my research.

Now, as far as gas prices, thank the stupid stock market for that. Again, there isn't a shortage. These idiots are worried about the value of the dollar so they hurry up and buy things like oil and gold to continue to make money. Which, in turn, hurts the economy and the value of the dollar.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SiezeTheMoment
Now is not the time or the place to educate those of you that do not understand, it has every bit to do with elected officals. But I'll give you the quick run around. You are blind if you do not think that our government wants us to be dependant upon oil, they tax it and make money from it. All be it they use the tax revenue for roads and infrastructure but it frees up other assets for them to spend. What other form of transportation have they offered us? Do research and see why we aren't able to buy the new Ford car that gets 65 mpg on deisel here in the states but they can in Europe.

What's funny is we had more supply before Ike than we did before Katrina. Also, Katrina had a more direct impact on supply than did Ike, based upon the location of the oil rigs. So it doesn't take much to figure out that the impact we feel should be far less with Ike than Katrina, but it is the other way around. I guess thats not so funny.

Also they interviewed on WLOS one of the managers at the pipeline in Spartanburg, and he admitted that their holding tanks were full, they are just not releasing them. When asked, "how much do those tanks hold", the manager strategically diclined to comment. Sounds like they are trying to drive up demand yet again, to keep the prices high. Simple economics really. The problem is this form of economics is starting to mess with peoples lives and should be stopped, instead we are found sitting on our hands in the office in the capital building.
You are so incorrect about everything in your post it's embarrassing!!

The reason the 65mpg car isn't here is outlined in the article, I guess you didn't read the whole thing.... and politicians had nothing to do with the car not being here, it was Ford... and they have good reason. Read the article s l o w l y.

And the rest of your rant was equally laughable and frustrating at the same time. Unbefuckinglievable.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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You are so incorrect about everything in your post it's embarrassing!!

The reason the 65mpg car isn't here is outlined in the article, I guess you didn't read the whole thing.... and politicians had nothing to do with the car not being here, it was Ford... and they have good reason. Read the article s l o w l y.

And the rest of your rant was equally laughable and frustrating at the same time. Unbefuckinglievable.


maybe he won't vote
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 06:23 PM
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Ike had little effect on the oil rigs. It shut down the refineries on the gulf coast, which is 20% of the countries refining capacity. This is why only the S.E. is seeing the high prices. They are holding gas in reserves at the holding tanks. If they released it there would be no reserves and as a result no gas at the pumps until the reserves are replenished. The media goes ape **** everytime there is a blip and everyone makes a mad dash for gas. The same thing happens with bread and milk when they mention snow in the winter. Great solution to let the govt. pass more laws to try and solve the problem. They have caused this. They tell the oil cos where they can and cannot drill.
They tell them they can't build any more refineries.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SiezeTheMoment
Even the best country in the world is not perfect, but that doesn't mean we stop striving for it.

Power was lost as well during Katrina, it still doesn't answer the question why is there less supply now, when we had more supply to begin with? Do your research.

I know I am speaking more out of frustration now than anything, but in my situation I am tired of being pumped full of B.S. I don't demand answers anymore, there are as many answers as there are opinions, I want the truth.
Even though there is a good supply of oil on hand it still has to be refined. The refineries were shut down about 5 days before Ike hit. It takes time to shut everything down and prepare for a hurricane. They can't just flip a switch and leave. Even though there was no major damage at the refineries there was still alot of damage. They had to repair this damage. The refineries were flooded they had no power and the people that work there had to deal with damge to their personal property. All this means down time for the refineries.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 08:28 PM
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It is easy to laugh at the situation when you are not in it. On the other hand if your life, job, and childrens lives are effected then it is no laughing matter.

On one hand I appreciate the competant responses, but I guess it is only until I read some of the posts that people on the outside looking in really do not have a clue. So allow me to give you an update, and just think if this was happening nationwide:

UPDATE: The mayor gave three adresses, first they said it was a "shortage" issue, next they claimed it was a "contract" issue, now they are saying they are waiting to hear back from the oil companies. The Governer as of yesterday just started looking into it, we are into the second week of this. One gas station was open about a quater mile off the interstate tonight, the line was all the way back to the interstate. A couple of schools closed early today, sporting events were canceled, a lot of independant business owners have closed until further notice. Mind you this is with the pipeline full, atleast as of two days ago.

That is the reality of the situation, even though I have been in much worse situations, I would never wish this upon anyone. Hopefully we can take this situation and learn from it before it does happen nationwide, but I doubt it seeing some of your responses.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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The funny thing is that I AM in the middle of it. Try living in Hurricane Devastation. Until then, quit bitching about not having any gas. If you have a hard time getting around, commute with a friend, take public transportation, ride a bicycle, or even walk. Fact of the matter is if everyone didn't rush to the pumps, you wouldn't be having a problem.
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The funny thing is that I AM in the middle of it. Try living in Hurricane Devastation. Until then, quit bitching about not having any gas. If you have a hard time getting around, commute with a friend, take public transportation, ride a bicycle, or even walk. Fact of the matter is if everyone didn't rush to the pumps, you wouldn't be having a problem.
You should have seen it around here monday afternoon when gas spiked up 25/barrel. They swarmed to the gas stations like flies to ****.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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I have been through three hurricane devestations, two I lived through, the other I was just caught in. But I am not getting into a pissing match, I was simply laying out the facts, you can take it or leave it. I was not posting to pursuade anyones decision just to inform. We are all adults here and can decide for our own....
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http://www.wlos.com/shared/newsroom/...vid_1392.shtml

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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SiezeTheMoment
I have been through three hurricane devestations, two I lived through, the other I was just caught in. But I am not getting into a pissing match, I was simply laying out the facts, you can take it or leave it. I was not posting to pursuade anyones decision just to inform. We are all adults here and can decide for our own....
I've been through a category 5 hurricane that devastated the U.S. Virgin Islands... it was so bad that there wasn't a SINGLE blade of grass that had green in it... there wasn't a shred of green on the entire island of St. Croix for 2+ weeks.... that kind of issue with the greenery has never been seen before in recorded time before then. It was bad.

Have you lived through a category 5 hurricane where 98% of the buildings where destroyed?

Even if I didn't have disaster experience it wouldn't change my view that you are completely full of crap on your posts on this petroleum issue (and other stuff in this thread.)

You sound *almost* as stupid as NObama.

You're good for a laugh though.. keep it up.
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