difference between T/A and WS6 T/A?
O ya here are the Real Specs, and YES EVERY CAR IS DIFFERENT SOME WILL HAVE MORE SOME WILL HAVE LESS, BUT THIS IS THE SPECS FROM THE FACTORY.
Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm):
310 / 231 @ 5200
w/ WS6 Ram Air: 325 / 242 @ 5200
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
340 / 461 @ 4000
w/ WS6 Ram Air: 350 / 475 @ 4000
NOW LETS HEAR THE EXCUSES
Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm):
310 / 231 @ 5200
w/ WS6 Ram Air: 325 / 242 @ 5200
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
340 / 461 @ 4000
w/ WS6 Ram Air: 350 / 475 @ 4000
NOW LETS HEAR THE EXCUSES
This is POST #10
OEM HP Ratings
THE FBODY IS UNDERATED, YES, YOU READ RIGHT. THOSE ADVERTISED NUMBERS THAT GM QUOTES ARE BULLSHIT. WHY GM UNDERTATED THE LS1 IN THE FBODY WE'LL NEVER KNOW FOR SURE BUT THE FACT IS THEY DID. AN LS1 IN THE FBODY WILL DYNO ANYWHERE FROM 270RWHP TO 320RWHP DEPENDING ON YEAR, TRANNY, AND OPTIONS (SS/'HAWK OR SLP OPTIONS).
I REPEAT AGAIN THE 98-02 CARS ARE UNDERATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PLEASE READ THE STICKIES
O ya here are the Real Specs, and YES EVERY CAR IS DIFFERENT SOME WILL HAVE MORE SOME WILL HAVE LESS, BUT THIS IS THE SPECS FROM THE FACTORY.
Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm):
310 / 231 @ 5200
w/ WS6 Ram Air: 325 / 242 @ 5200
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
340 / 461 @ 4000
w/ WS6 Ram Air: 350 / 475 @ 4000
NOW LETS HEAR THE EXCUSES
Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm):
310 / 231 @ 5200
w/ WS6 Ram Air: 325 / 242 @ 5200
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
340 / 461 @ 4000
w/ WS6 Ram Air: 350 / 475 @ 4000
NOW LETS HEAR THE EXCUSES
Yeah and the average birth weight of babies is what 7 lbs about. I bet all of us on this forum where born at 7 lbs on the dot right lol. Don't believe everything you read. Throwing up SAE engine #'s is pointless and can't use that for arguements sake?
O ya here are the Real Specs, and YES EVERY CAR IS DIFFERENT SOME WILL HAVE MORE SOME WILL HAVE LESS, BUT THIS IS THE SPECS FROM THE FACTORY.
Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm):
310 / 231 @ 5200
w/ WS6 Ram Air: 325 / 242 @ 5200
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
340 / 461 @ 4000
w/ WS6 Ram Air: 350 / 475 @ 4000
NOW LETS HEAR THE EXCUSES
Horsepower (hp / kw @ rpm):
310 / 231 @ 5200
w/ WS6 Ram Air: 325 / 242 @ 5200
Torque (lb-ft / Nm @ rpm):
340 / 461 @ 4000
w/ WS6 Ram Air: 350 / 475 @ 4000
NOW LETS HEAR THE EXCUSES
Sounds to me like Settlemire has a hater which is a good thing
I have haters tooSo what did Settlemire do, that was so bad, to you? You don't dislike him too much seeing that you drive an fbody.
Last edited by 7camaro7; Mar 11, 2009 at 05:00 PM.
Because its a m6 horse power was better on those T/A IS NOT FASTER THAN A T/A WS6 .
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I was trying to agree with you on how they're at the same power levels but argue how you think the suspension is useless. And better suspension of SSs, ws6s, firehawks, or what ever don't handle better due to only bigger wheels and lower profile tires.
Sounds to me like Settlemire has a hater which is a good thing I have haters too
So what did Settlemire do, that was so bad, to you? You don't dislike him too much seeing that you drive an fbody.
Sounds to me like Settlemire has a hater which is a good thing
I have haters tooSo what did Settlemire do, that was so bad, to you? You don't dislike him too much seeing that you drive an fbody.
And as for Settlemire all I can say is He has No Business calling himself the F-body Father considering he wasn't working for GM in 1966-67 when the cars were being introduced. And he's always been more of a marketing guy for the Camaro then for the Firebird. Not that GM did much F-body Marketing after 1999.
And I agree All F-bodies are the same. But only until the mods start going on.
If you did a little more research then you may come to the conclusion that the Suspensions only real difference is the front swaybar size. The springs and shocks aren't enough to make a substantial difference.
And as for Settlemire all I can say is He has No Business calling himself the F-body Father considering he wasn't working for GM in 1966-67 when the cars were being introduced. And he's always been more of a marketing guy for the Camaro then for the Firebird. Not that GM did much F-body Marketing after 1999.
And as for Settlemire all I can say is He has No Business calling himself the F-body Father considering he wasn't working for GM in 1966-67 when the cars were being introduced. And he's always been more of a marketing guy for the Camaro then for the Firebird. Not that GM did much F-body Marketing after 1999.
Fact of the matter is the SS, ws6, firehawk, and so on do handle better than the other cars and its not just due to tires and wheels,,,... no matter who settlemire was working for back in '66 and '67.
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From: St. Clair Shores Mi.
On my car, afaik, the front sway is all that was different on my SS, but I do think there is more to it seeing how my car has the FE4 code which is some jazz about high performance handling. I think the springs may be different but the shocks are the same unless they were upgraded to bilstiens.
Fact of the matter is the SS, ws6, firehawk, and so on do handle better than the other cars and its not just due to tires and wheels,,,... no matter who settlemire was working for back in '66 and '67.
Fact of the matter is the SS, ws6, firehawk, and so on do handle better than the other cars and its not just due to tires and wheels,,,... no matter who settlemire was working for back in '66 and '67.
1996 thru early 2000 WS6 and SS's came with the 1LE springs 360# Front 130-180# Rear where as stock LS car springs were 292/114. In late 2000 GM cheaped out and removed the springs from the package. So in essence the later cars just had the 32mm F swaybar and the bigger wheels and rubber.
I've never seen dramatic enough skidpad differences between the two setups that would make me think that one was much better then the other.
The Billstien option was a different setup with Eibach Progressive rate springs and the aforementioned shocks. This was touted as a much better riding system with great road manners.
I personally have Strano Springs, Swaybars and Koni's which is a vast improvement over any of the factory stuff.
I've got the strano setup on the sway bars and all I need to complete my full suspension is an adjustable panhard, springs, and shocks.Strano knows his stuff.
AFA suspension goes on the stock ones I won't say there were big differences, but there is still a difference. HPwise, there was really not that big of a difference. It was so small that I would say it is negligable(sp?)
This is a fact though, an ls1 is an ls1. From 98-00 they used one cam and 01-02 they used a different one and put on an ls6 intake and supposedly better exhaust manifolds. No matter what F-body you had, in stock trim they all got this respectively depending on the years. No matter what
no matter who you are, lid and cat back don't do enough to brag about, unless it sounds good
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ARE YOU SERIOUS???
To put it most simply. . . the difference is a hood and badge. THATS IT!
If people stopped worrying about the difference and realized they rolled of the same damn canadian assembly line, comments like the above would not happen.
And the difference between an SS and a WS6?? . . . . ready?
PREFERENCE.
wow. what a thought. I would be more concerned about the differences from year to year.
Look at it this way: I'd much rather have a 2002 regular T/A than a 98 WS6
To put it most simply. . . the difference is a hood and badge. THATS IT!
If people stopped worrying about the difference and realized they rolled of the same damn canadian assembly line, comments like the above would not happen.
And the difference between an SS and a WS6?? . . . . ready?
PREFERENCE.
wow. what a thought. I would be more concerned about the differences from year to year.
Look at it this way: I'd much rather have a 2002 regular T/A than a 98 WS6
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From: St. Clair Shores Mi.
Most of us F-body people use that page to show how equal the cars really are. In reality the vette should be quicker because of it's better power to weight ratio. But all in all it's a drivers race because the fastest or more powerfull car is not always the winner.
All the other boxs would have to be pretty damn small for that to make a difference too. like the rest would have to be open 1/4 of a millimeter and the ws6 still have its like 4in, then yea it would make a difference but I don't think it helps, typically. Now at top speed I bet it helps with the hood design and all.