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Old Aug 2, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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is a B4C car considered a special edition car, i know it doesnt hold the value money wise like a firehawk or or a 35th SS, just wanted to know if a B4C was considered a special edition car or not

mine was ordered but never picked up by the department that ordered it only got 53k miles on it and if the build #'s i found are right mine is one of 39 for 2000

one other question for yall did most B4C cars come without any options because that is what i thought, i think someone fairly high up on the totem pole must have ordered this one cause it has power everything and leather interior only option it didnt have was the monsoon(or whatever the camaro equivalent was) sound system
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isn't the B4C the code for a cop car?
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 01:34 AM
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yep..
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A 4th gen B4C is basically a stripped down Z28 with a bigger alternator and no Z28 RPO code. They could get all options except stuff like power antenna, CD player, steering wheel radio controls, chrome wheels, etc. Leather I question though. Did you buy this car new? If not look up the RPO for leather and see if this car has it.
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Old Aug 3, 2010 | 08:48 PM
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didnt get it new im the 2nd owner, 1st guy just used it for a weekend car occasionally and it sat a lot but he drove it enough to keep everything in shape

ill have to pull up the RPO code, it has the pleather door panels to which makes me think it prolly came that way most people that arent serious car people would leave the cloth door panels alone but ill check to make sure
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The only thing special about them is that they were police cars. No different than having a 9C1 Caprice or Tahoe. This is JMHO, though.
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 12:53 AM
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yeah thats kinda why i was wondering what the general consensus was, its special to me and its been a hit whenever i show up in it cause most people see it and say thats a wierd exhaust for a v6 to have lol, had a guy in a truck call me out in my v6 last weekend, went and started it and he changed his mind haha

its just cool to own a pretty rare car 1 of 39 white B4C for 2000 and only 245 total B4C cars in 2000 if the build #s are right and that it never was actually used by the police so its mileage isnt very high is a good bonus

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B4C on a 4th gen is different but not doesn't carry as much weight as the 3rd gens which were more heavily modded.

RS got the Z28 running gear L98 or LB9/5spd and was basically a 1LE with AC. It was a nasty sleeper 245hp 345tq in a RS which usually only had a V6 or 190hp L03 305.
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...most people see it and say thats a wierd exhaust for a v6 to have lol, had a guy in a truck call me out in my v6 last weekend, went and started it and he changed his mind haha
What is different about it from any other Z28? All the 4th gen Z28s and V6 cars looked identical besides the exhaust (single outlet vs. dual vac tips) and Z28 badges. The only difference on the exterior would be if the V6 had the base hubcaps.
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no badges, u have no idea (seems most non f-body people see no badges first assumption is v6, ud be suprised how much the badges affect what people think the car is) so unless you know what your looking for most anyone will think its a v6 car when its just sitting there

nothing to tell it apart other than dual outlets for the exhaust and it has the 16in snowflakes, already got a few races from people that thought it was a v6 including a 2010 ss that couldnt hear my car when i pulled up beside him, had his music blaring and started revving his car so he never heard my car until i was going by him

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Originally Posted by NOTAV6
is a B4C car considered a special edition car, i know it doesnt hold the value money wise like a firehawk or or a 35th SS, just wanted to know if a B4C was considered a special edition car or not

mine was ordered but never picked up by the department that ordered it only got 53k miles on it and if the build #'s i found are right mine is one of 39 for 2000

one other question for yall did most B4C cars come without any options because that is what i thought, i think someone fairly high up on the totem pole must have ordered this one cause it has power everything and leather interior only option it didnt have was the monsoon(or whatever the camaro equivalent was) sound system
CompNine's database indicates that a small percentage of B4C cars got leather, 2 in '98, 2 in '99, 7 in '00, 4 in '01 and 109 in '02. Theres a breakdown of B4Cs linked in my sig.

IMO, B4Cs are the ultimate sleeper (for obvious reasons).
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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thats pretty cool so my car is possibly one of 7 for 2000, got a pretty rare car as far as build #'s go then (not that its worth anymore though lol)

and as far a sleeper, yes it is ..... ive pretty much decided to leave the stock 16s on it and not get any street wheels, im just going to get a good set of 15's for going to the track and not change the appearance at all
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the actual cash value of any given vehicle(special ED. or otherwise) is completely determined by the owner.......What are you willing to pay for it &,or what are you willing to take for it. People go nuts over KBB or whatever price guide. But I live in the real world. Here someone may pay more for something they WANT, or Less because there are alot for sell. JMHO

But it is cool to have a car you are really into And nice if there aren't one in every parking lot. To the average John Q. Public I'm driving "Just another Black Trans Am"
And my car isn't even a Trans-Am LoL
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 01:36 PM
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For some years, leather was available. For a lot of years, I don't believe manual transmission was available. I'm not sure if power locks and windows were available for any year... maybe, maybe not. I have no idea. B4C is yet another thing I haven't delved into too much for my website because the restrictions changed every year. Unless I'm mistaken, I believe B4C even got the 1LE's oil cooler for certain years.

As far as future value... the ones that don't have damage in them will of course be worth the most. Some of those cars were beat to hell by the people removing the police equipment, and for that matter, nobody wants plastic with holes drilled in it where police equipment used to be mounted, unless the equipment is still there.

What I personally think is interesting about the '98-'02 B4C police cars is that it was the only way to get a V8 Camaro without a black top, excluding the 35th Anni Edition SS and all the Berger, GMMG, etc. cars (that required the roof being repainted body color).

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CompNine's database indicates that a small percentage of B4C cars got leather, 2 in '98, 2 in '99, 7 in '00, 4 in '01 and 109 in '02. Theres a breakdown of B4Cs linked in my sig.

IMO, B4Cs are the ultimate sleeper (for obvious reasons).
That must have been a real pain in the butt to look up! I wouldn't have gone to that effort.

However, did you look up each of the leather interior codes? I don't know them off the top of my head, but there's at least 2 codes each year depending on color. Those numbers seem pretty low! But might be accurate for all I know.

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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 06:33 PM
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havent yet been down in houston for a big car show have to do it when i get back home
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I would surmise that the only B4C vehicles that will be worth anything are ones restored to the department's original in-service condition. It would be more like a novelty car, and certainly something one would not regularly see.
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Originally Posted by Big Chuk
the actual cash value of any given vehicle(special ED. or otherwise) is completely determined by the owner.......What are you willing to pay for it &,or what are you willing to take for it. People go nuts over KBB or whatever price guide. But I live in the real world. Here someone may pay more for something they WANT, or Less because there are alot for sell. JMHO

But it is cool to have a car you are really into And nice if there aren't one in every parking lot. To the average John Q. Public I'm driving "Just another Black Trans Am"
And my car isn't even a Trans-Am LoL
lol that's kind of funny. Yeah I don't even tell ppl my cars a Firehawk anymore (To much of whats a Firehawk never heard of it....) So I just tell them it's a TransAm and go about my biz. But every now and again someone will see my car and go oh $#^! that's a firehawk. lol
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Originally Posted by demonspeed
I would surmise that the only B4C vehicles that will be worth anything are ones restored to the department's original in-service condition. It would be more like a novelty car, and certainly something one would not regularly see.
That's a good point. I like seeing the B4C police cars that were originally two-tone cars (or repainted two-tone) with the strobes and all that.
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while we were in houston i met some of the local guys at a meet and a cop came out there and was talking to us hes a car guy has a gt500 ... anyway had something happen and he was out there checking on some stuff then came and shot the **** with us for a bit and got on how stupid people ruin spots for people and pointed at some of the ricers out there and some other cars then pointed at mine and said people driving v6 f-bodys that think they are fast lol, told him it wasnt a v6 after a few mins when we were talking about our cars and what it was when he got to me and asked what i had out there, he was cool about it though said he liked the sleeper look haha
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Originally Posted by Brangeta
That must have been a real pain in the butt to look up! I wouldn't have gone to that effort.

However, did you look up each of the leather interior codes? I don't know them off the top of my head, but there's at least 2 codes each year depending on color. Those numbers seem pretty low! But might be accurate for all I know.
It took some time, and yeah in most cases I had to look up 2 RPO codes for a given color/material of interior seat (ex: taupe leather was RPOs 522 and 524, one was usually combined w/ the AG1 "6-way power adjustable seats", the other w/ the AQ9 "luxury reclining seats")

M6 was available on B4Cs from '93-'02, but were relatively rare. I guess most LEOs have their hands full enough w/ radios and sirens to not want to be bothered w/ a stick.
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