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Aux Input to factory Delco head, Best method
#1
Aux Input to factory Delco head, Best method
Similar to how I've done other heads, here's how I added an auxiliary input to a Delphi Delco GM head. It's mostly about tricking the stereo to believe the CD (or changer) had made a successful handshake/plugged-in, so the amplifier remains active for the channel.
After I modded this, I found a similar mod on this forum, so I thought I should post my version -which does not require a CD to be playing constantly, whirring, and wearing out the unit. I could never abide by that inefficiency!
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Here are my notes from the (simple) procedure:
Install a 3.5mm (or RCA etc) Female audio jack with the wire for Left audio signal to the #1 connector/thin Black wire on the CD module's connector, then common ground to the large #2 wire, finally Right signal wire to #3 pin/wire (White) on the connector. You can splice these wires into the connector, or solder them to the backside of the connector on the circuit board etc. I put them on the backside, didn't get a picture. And I placed the jack on the rear, so I can route another cable anywhere, easily removable from the head.
Now cut the #7 wire (7th from end the audio signals and thick Black ground wire are on). Install any on/off switch between both cut ends of the wire. Mount the switch anywhere convenient. I put mine just above the Audio button, because in my head unit there's an open space. It doesn't show when installed in vehicle.
THAT'S IT!
Now, test it out:
Turn unit on with a CD in it, let it begin to play, then flip the switch you installed. -display will say "err", CD will stop, and revert to playing radio. HOWEVER, now you can just press the CD button and it will open the CD amp channel for whatever aux-in you are feeding in. It won't try to spin the CD unless you flip back the switch.
This works perfectly! The only time you ever need to use the switch you've installed is when you want to use the CD player again, or if the car battery's been disconnected.
Any suggestions, just tell me and I'll update..
After I modded this, I found a similar mod on this forum, so I thought I should post my version -which does not require a CD to be playing constantly, whirring, and wearing out the unit. I could never abide by that inefficiency!
--
Here are my notes from the (simple) procedure:
Install a 3.5mm (or RCA etc) Female audio jack with the wire for Left audio signal to the #1 connector/thin Black wire on the CD module's connector, then common ground to the large #2 wire, finally Right signal wire to #3 pin/wire (White) on the connector. You can splice these wires into the connector, or solder them to the backside of the connector on the circuit board etc. I put them on the backside, didn't get a picture. And I placed the jack on the rear, so I can route another cable anywhere, easily removable from the head.
Now cut the #7 wire (7th from end the audio signals and thick Black ground wire are on). Install any on/off switch between both cut ends of the wire. Mount the switch anywhere convenient. I put mine just above the Audio button, because in my head unit there's an open space. It doesn't show when installed in vehicle.
THAT'S IT!
Now, test it out:
Turn unit on with a CD in it, let it begin to play, then flip the switch you installed. -display will say "err", CD will stop, and revert to playing radio. HOWEVER, now you can just press the CD button and it will open the CD amp channel for whatever aux-in you are feeding in. It won't try to spin the CD unless you flip back the switch.
This works perfectly! The only time you ever need to use the switch you've installed is when you want to use the CD player again, or if the car battery's been disconnected.
Any suggestions, just tell me and I'll update..
Last edited by AceTechOne; 10-07-2014 at 11:45 AM.
#3
Hey that is a great idea , but my Cd radio always is in err and won't play Cds always rtn the cd out . Can i use this method and will work ? The other method with the cd running wont work for me do to the Cd problem.
2002 z28
2002 z28
Last edited by Fonsi; 10-17-2014 at 11:41 AM.
#4
I doubt it will work, you really need the CD player to intialise successfully once..
Does your CD actually spin-up at all, but just not register a CD? If you're sure it spins, then it could easily be just a dirty lazer lens -you could snap open the CD unit and wipe the lens with your finger or a cloth. I've never bothered with anything other than finger, and it usually worked often back in the day. Also used to have success by forcing the lazer/reader part of the player sideways -the gears always allowed it to be forced without damage. If you can get your CD to work, then the mod will work too.
Having said that, It's still possible if you put a switch on the #7 wire that it'd keep the CD audio channel open.. we're really tricking the unit's firmware, so it's unpredictable how it'll behave. Like if maybe it is in a different "err" state, because of a dead CD module, perhaps disconnecting/switching the wire could still cause another error, allowing the audio channel to remain on..
try it, only takes a few minutes at least to snip the wire and test if the channel's open!
Does your CD actually spin-up at all, but just not register a CD? If you're sure it spins, then it could easily be just a dirty lazer lens -you could snap open the CD unit and wipe the lens with your finger or a cloth. I've never bothered with anything other than finger, and it usually worked often back in the day. Also used to have success by forcing the lazer/reader part of the player sideways -the gears always allowed it to be forced without damage. If you can get your CD to work, then the mod will work too.
Having said that, It's still possible if you put a switch on the #7 wire that it'd keep the CD audio channel open.. we're really tricking the unit's firmware, so it's unpredictable how it'll behave. Like if maybe it is in a different "err" state, because of a dead CD module, perhaps disconnecting/switching the wire could still cause another error, allowing the audio channel to remain on..
try it, only takes a few minutes at least to snip the wire and test if the channel's open!
#5
Well i try all that but still err also the CD is not spinning only after the err show up and rtn the CD , not idea what is wrong with this Demon . I will try to ck if the sinal will keep open when i put the cd in and plug something to the aux fast maybe that will keep it open and works even when the cd is rtn. Any way is like $4 and some time in the garage with some brain helpers 12 of them will do just fine. so total of about 20 for Me ha ha . let you know if works. now where i connect the cables on the aux part is 5 terminals and you use 3 plus the switch. or your is dif. that the one is use in the other way.
#6
Yes, mine is different, uses only 3 wires to a standard stereo audio jack. ground, left, right. plus the one to switch. You could use a 5wire audio jack if that's what you have (or scavenged from broken electronics), and ignore the extra pins.
#7
Hello, I appreciate you sharing your modification to add an audio input to your Delco stereo! In my case it did not work. I did the mod just as you explained even though there is a difference in the position of the connector on the board & the number of wires is one less (14) wires. The second wire is white & thin where your second wire is black & larger gauge. The first was still black & thin in my case. The part number of my radio is 10315119 & made in 2003. It is the same in appearance in every way except that one connector from the CD player to the main board. I am hoping you have access to schematics & can help me identify the correct wires for my unit. There is a label on the board that says "Cavalier Base CD 1221548". Thanks very much! Keith
One additional bit of information is that there is another connector from the CD module as well with 6 wires. There is a black wire on one end with 5 whites.
Thanks!
One additional bit of information is that there is another connector from the CD module as well with 6 wires. There is a black wire on one end with 5 whites.
Thanks!
Last edited by WhiteBird00; 03-09-2015 at 07:56 AM. Reason: Merge consecutive posts
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That thread was a big help. The audio wires were three in a row on the smaller connector in this radio. Black & two whites. If I cannot find out what wire to add a switch to turn off the CD drive I will do it as in the thread. Thanks very much!
#10
Thank You!
Thanks AceTechOne!
Works Great on my 2001 S10 Delco Unit.
A couple of years back I did the other mod that requires you to have a CD playing, and it worked okay until the CD player took a dump. CD was coming up error all of the time, and could not find the tracks. I tried a CD cleaner to no avail. I also had an issue with some music in the background from the CD, but fixed that by making a blank CD to use with it, but then the CD player took a dump. I did a google search trying to find a way to repair the CD player, and I found posts by techs saying that these Delco Units are know for having issues with the CD players.
So, I purchased another Delco unit on eBay that was being sold, "as is" for parts. I pulled out the CD player unit only, and swapped it with the broken player inside my unit. I did this mod, and it works just as advertised!
Play a CD, flip the switch on wire 7, unit says Error and goes back to FM, then just press the CD button again, and now the Aux jack is live, without the CD spinning!
Awesome! Like the title of the thread says, "The Best Way!"
No need to be putting wear and tear on the CD Player.
No background music bleeding over from the CD.
Thank you for sharing this awesome Mod!
Morpheous
Works Great on my 2001 S10 Delco Unit.
A couple of years back I did the other mod that requires you to have a CD playing, and it worked okay until the CD player took a dump. CD was coming up error all of the time, and could not find the tracks. I tried a CD cleaner to no avail. I also had an issue with some music in the background from the CD, but fixed that by making a blank CD to use with it, but then the CD player took a dump. I did a google search trying to find a way to repair the CD player, and I found posts by techs saying that these Delco Units are know for having issues with the CD players.
So, I purchased another Delco unit on eBay that was being sold, "as is" for parts. I pulled out the CD player unit only, and swapped it with the broken player inside my unit. I did this mod, and it works just as advertised!
Play a CD, flip the switch on wire 7, unit says Error and goes back to FM, then just press the CD button again, and now the Aux jack is live, without the CD spinning!
Awesome! Like the title of the thread says, "The Best Way!"
No need to be putting wear and tear on the CD Player.
No background music bleeding over from the CD.
Thank you for sharing this awesome Mod!
Morpheous
Last edited by Morpheousman; 03-17-2015 at 02:53 PM. Reason: spelling
#11
I have a 2003 Chevy Avalanche with a base delco radio that has single cd player and no xm or external cd.
I would like to perform the cd mod with cd error switch (that AceTechOne described) provided I can determine the right wires to splice.
I have included a picture of the radio board. The two connectors at the bottom of the picture are coming from the cd unit. I suspect that the connector on the right is the one with the audio signals given that it looks like the audio amplifier is on that side, but would like to confirm that this is the right one.
1. Which connector (right or left) should I use for left (pin 1), right (pin 3), & gnd (pin 2)?
2. Which connector (right or left) should I use for the pin 7?
3. What is the function of pin 7?
4. Does the switch for pin 7 need to gnd pin 7 or disconnect pin 7 from gnd in order to cause the cd to error out and switch back to fm?
5. what should I use for grounding the switch (pin 2 gnd or chassis or other)?
Thanks,
rccbflyer
If useful the delco radio part number is 15184932.
Thanks,
rccbflyer
I would like to perform the cd mod with cd error switch (that AceTechOne described) provided I can determine the right wires to splice.
I have included a picture of the radio board. The two connectors at the bottom of the picture are coming from the cd unit. I suspect that the connector on the right is the one with the audio signals given that it looks like the audio amplifier is on that side, but would like to confirm that this is the right one.
1. Which connector (right or left) should I use for left (pin 1), right (pin 3), & gnd (pin 2)?
2. Which connector (right or left) should I use for the pin 7?
3. What is the function of pin 7?
4. Does the switch for pin 7 need to gnd pin 7 or disconnect pin 7 from gnd in order to cause the cd to error out and switch back to fm?
5. what should I use for grounding the switch (pin 2 gnd or chassis or other)?
Thanks,
rccbflyer
If useful the delco radio part number is 15184932.
Thanks,
rccbflyer
Last edited by WhiteBird00; 07-29-2015 at 08:27 AM. Reason: Merge consecutive posts
#12
I want to get an AC Delco radio from a 2006 Grand Prix to work on the bench.
I just want the unit to power up and show the display. I'm not worried about the security on the radios. I can reprogram the EEprom to get by that.
I have the two power and two grounds hooked up. I get lights on the buttons and CD and the CD ejects. The display shows absolutely nothing.
Is the radio waiting for a signal from a car to turn on?
Harness colors
Radio battery=orange
Radio Ground = black and white
Stereo antenna trigger = violet
stereo amp trigger -= violet
I just want the unit to power up and show the display. I'm not worried about the security on the radios. I can reprogram the EEprom to get by that.
I have the two power and two grounds hooked up. I get lights on the buttons and CD and the CD ejects. The display shows absolutely nothing.
Is the radio waiting for a signal from a car to turn on?
Harness colors
Radio battery=orange
Radio Ground = black and white
Stereo antenna trigger = violet
stereo amp trigger -= violet
#14
Save the manuals!
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^ I don't expect GM would get too imaginative with the radios across cars: https://ls1tech.com/forums/stereo-el...ml#post5923441
Do you have a red and yellow wire, also? If so, try them.
Do you have a red and yellow wire, also? If so, try them.
#15
BTW, my Radio Shack is still stocking the switched jack. p/n 2740246