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blazinblue Mar 13, 2009 06:32 PM

beat two STI's
 
my mods on my camaro are:
A4 no stall, Long tubes, cutout, 230/224 cam, lid , tune.

sti's unknown


first one with my cutout open, going 35mph, him being stick shift took off right on the third honk and i floored it on the third so when my car being A4 it took its time to go react so he got 1 and half cars right away. By the time we hit 80 i went past him and pulling and shut off at 90

second one , doing 30 roll, we both took off at third honk, he got me a car and by 70ish i went past and pulling to about 80 and shut off.

where these sti's stock or what could they have done to em i dont have any idea what their HP numbers are

IMgettingLS1 Mar 13, 2009 09:22 PM

well prolly so but where they relly wake up is from a dig, ive always thought the wrx's are complete dogs from roll... good kill though

02NBMFormula Mar 13, 2009 10:43 PM

what did they look like? one wing? two wing with an suzuki front end or like a small minivan?

giant exhaust pipe? front mount?

SPLATT Mar 14, 2009 04:40 AM

STIs are dogs. they can go from a dig a couple times until they break. all in all good races. How do you like that cam? i have the same one and i love it.

01350ta Mar 14, 2009 07:44 AM

Good kills. I think stock STIs are around 300 HP.

speedthrillsme Mar 14, 2009 12:47 PM

If you are in CO how many feet above elevation are you? Doesn't boost do better vs NA when alt. becomes a factor?

Either way good kills.

WSsixed Mar 14, 2009 02:34 PM


Originally Posted by speedthrillsme (Post 11242201)
If you are in CO how many feet above elevation are you? Doesn't boost do better vs NA when alt. becomes a factor?

Either way good kills.

Yeah boosted cars do significantly better then us NA guys do.

Damn elevation lol

blown03mustang Mar 14, 2009 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by WSsixed (Post 11242664)
Yeah boosted cars do significantly better then us NA guys do.

Damn elevation lol

idk, my boosted mustang did very well at sea level but once i got it in the mountains it was absolutely dog slow. but hey i guess it was a mustang, right? lol

nice kills OP:chug:

blazinblue Mar 15, 2009 01:30 AM

we are at about 5600 to 5800 ft above sea level. I dont remember how they looked.. i do know they had exhaust done with giant exhaust tip. I plan on getting a stall but dont know what size for my cam??

trevdawg911 Mar 15, 2009 04:53 AM

yea elevation def effects turbo cars much more than the same elevation change would effect an N/A car

Irunelevens Mar 15, 2009 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by SPLATT (Post 11240806)
STIs are dogs. they can go from a dig a couple times until they break. all in all good races. How do you like that cam? i have the same one and i love it.

No. There are people with 100+ 1/4 mile passes that drive the cars to their full potential. If you don't know how to launch, then yes you will break something. Just like the stock 10-bolt in an F-body.

Originally Posted by trevdawg911 (Post 11246060)
yea elevation def effects turbo cars much more than the same elevation change would effect an N/A car

That's exactly the opposite of everything I've ever heard... there is a reason that early fighter jets and such were supercharged or turbocharged, and I can tell you that it has nothing to do with increased power at sea level.

Steiner Mar 15, 2009 05:52 PM

+1 on both accounts. The STi is known to have an excellent drivetrain and forced induction cars have an advantage at elevation.

Ricer Mar 15, 2009 08:06 PM

the regular WRX's are the ones with crappy drivetrains.. not the STi's

SPLATT Mar 15, 2009 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by Irunelevens (Post 11247515)
No. There are people with 100+ 1/4 mile passes that drive the cars to their full potential. If you don't know how to launch, then yes you will break something. Just like the stock 10-bolt in an F-body.

yes and there are also tons of people with great passes on their 10 bolts. I have seen 2 STIs break from launching like madmen, Great launches though before that. and the drives did know what they were doing. granted, this was out of tons of runs. i am by no means saying they have bad drive trains....i mean that would be like calling the kettle black (look at F-Bodies), but, it does happen occasionally.im sure they have better than us. Also, is the factory rating correct on STIs? they seem a tad slow for 300HP. i guess the AWD doesnt really help much there.

ballhawkdawk Mar 15, 2009 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by SPLATT (Post 11250638)
yes and there are also tons of people with great passes on their 10 bolts. I have seen 2 STIs break from launching like madmen, Great launches though before that. and the drives did know what they were doing. granted, this was out of tons of runs. i am by no means saying they have bad drive trains....i mean that would be like calling the kettle black (look at F-Bodies), but, it does happen occasionally.im sure they have better than us. Also, is the factory rating correct on STIs? they seem a tad slow for 300HP. i guess the AWD doesnt really help much there.

Pretty sure it's right. I think they dyno around 230 or so to all wheels.

SPLATT Mar 15, 2009 11:25 PM

ok cool, sounds about right then. thanks!

Newskool Mach Mar 16, 2009 01:40 AM

Good kills those cars can be bad, I haven't seen one that scares me yet. I am sure they are out there though.

WSsixed Mar 16, 2009 03:34 AM


Originally Posted by Irunelevens (Post 11247515)
No. There are people with 100+ 1/4 mile passes that drive the cars to their full potential. If you don't know how to launch, then yes you will break something. Just like the stock 10-bolt in an F-body.


That's exactly the opposite of everything I've ever heard... there is a reason that early fighter jets and such were supercharged or turbocharged, and I can tell you that it has nothing to do with increased power at sea level.

Exactly right, FI cars are much better off at elevation then N/A cars. Which is exactly why stock ls1 cars run mid 14's up hear. I think its like 25% loss in power for an N/A car at this elevation. People can say as much as they want about those stock times for LS1's at this elevation but it's true unfortunately.

Daz Mar 16, 2009 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by SPLATT (Post 11250638)
yes and there are also tons of people with great passes on their 10 bolts. I have seen 2 STIs break from launching like madmen, Great launches though before that. and the drives did know what they were doing. granted, this was out of tons of runs. i am by no means saying they have bad drive trains....i mean that would be like calling the kettle black (look at F-Bodies), but, it does happen occasionally.im sure they have better than us. Also, is the factory rating correct on STIs? they seem a tad slow for 300HP. i guess the AWD doesnt really help much there.

The 04-07 are actually 294 corrected hp and the 08-09 are 304 hp . With a turbo exhaust and an AccessPort ECU flasher they are Stg.2 and around 270-280 whp untuned, around 12.7-12.9 1/4's.

IWGF Mar 17, 2009 02:09 AM


Originally Posted by trevdawg911 (Post 11246060)
yea elevation def effects turbo cars much more than the same elevation change would effect an N/A car

Pretty sure you got that backwards buddy. Considering that with an increase in elevation, N/A cars lose power. For example, my car loses about a whole second off the 1/4 mile. So that comes out to about 20% power loss due to elevation. Which would be why turbo cars are so common out here. Research before you post shit like that.


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