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Old Oct 10, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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is that 13.1s -13.4s when the 05 stang is rolling or launching ? I thought the new stangs where up in high 13s to low 14s ?? they must be quicker where your from

prolly depends on weather, track prep, and driver. The ones at the track I go to on sat were running in the 13.6-13.7 range. Not sure on the 60' times. I remember when there were two at Ford Nationals that one was an auto and the other a manual and they were running 14.4-14.50s. I think they were cutting 2.1-2.2s. Must have had crappy driver's then.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 10:52 AM
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The best 05 GT run (only one) I saw was a mid 14 (only ran 8th mile, calculated mid 14 from 9.3 @ 76) That not withstanding, the 05 GT has a GREAT suspension and with a GOOD driver can run low 13's. As to the S2K beating it from a roll, I am unsure but I have heard a lot of talk around the honda dealerships by some of the sales reps (One of which i know) that he has had people calling him up (ppl who bought the S2k) and telling him how they beat one from a roll, he says noone ever claimed to from a dig, jsut a roll. Also, my friend SAW an RSX-S (stock) take a 99+ gt from a roll and i know that I have heard similar stories. The S2K weighs 2800, the GT 3500, the S2K dynoes out about 190-200rwhp and the GT about 260-280 rwhp. So, 70hp difference and a 700# difference. From a roll TQ is not as big of a player so yes, I think it feasable (6M gearbox has better choices than the 5-speed mustang) that an S2K could take a new GT from a high speed roll (60+).
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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I wouldnt doubt an s2000 or rsx-s beating a 99-04 mustang GT from a roll. I was with my friend who was borrowing his brother stock 99 mustang gt vert (auto with only mod being flowmasters) and I was shocked at how slow the thing was so i could def see it getting beat from a roll by an s2000 or an rsx-s. As for the new GT's I dunno, I mean I havent seen it nor head anything like that but if thats true then thats pretty sad for the new GT.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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The new GT is a pretty fast car, but its heavy, the S2000 is pretty light and is great from a roll, the one I rode in was blurring the digi speedo at tripple digits, 104-107-109-112 etc. In the double digits it looked like 58-64-69-73, I mean, it would fly. It wasnt LS1 qucik or anything, but for a 4-banger...wow. (other fast 4-banger from a roll is a friends turbo MR2 from back in the day).
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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A s2000 won't beat a m5 05stang from a role,stock broken in times have been 13.4-13.7 at 101-103. I could see it being dead even against a auto though. In stock form I killed a 350z,s2000,SRT-4 all from a role. Alot of idiots don't know how to downshift into the right gear in a roll race,so anything is possible.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 2001z
is that 13.1s -13.4s when the 05 stang is rolling or launching ? I thought the new stangs where up in high 13s to low 14s ?? they must be quicker where your from
more like high 13's, to mid 13's, depending on driver, transmission type, track prep and weather conditions.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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i was just asking becouse i have seen many here on the 1/8 and none of them are even close to low 13s if you use the 1.56 formula. the best i have personally seen at the 3 tracks down here is 8.8s 81mph 2.05 60 and that was with a semi pro guy at the wheel but they seem to average 8.90s to 9s from the dozen or so i have seen run . But like you said it could be diffrent on other tracks and diffrent weather situations .
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 08:15 PM
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The GT when broken in should do low 13's. One magazine tested one with 500 miles on the odo, BONE STOCK and got 13.1X at 99.9X mph, The magazine is called "Race Pages" I belive. THey slipped the clutch from 4K, and powershifted the 1-2 shift.
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Old Oct 11, 2005 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
The GT when broken in should do low 13's. One magazine tested one with 500 miles on the odo, BONE STOCK and got 13.1X at 99.9X mph, The magazine is called "Race Pages" I belive. THey slipped the clutch from 4K, and powershifted the 1-2 shift.
I can't say anything because my 98.51mph trap @ 13.59 is low supposedly, but 13.1 @99.9x mph??????????????????? I've seen them at the track and they run mid 13s in manual form. Haven't seen an auto run yet.

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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 12:00 AM
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Originally Posted by grey03mach1
The 4.10's seem like the way to go but I will be adding NOS (125-150 shot) in the future. It seems like 3.90's might work better for NOS. I am also aware of the 28 spine axles and how easy they will break.

Then I'd go with 3:90's. Your in the EXACT same boat as me. I'm getting the bottle here soon and I'll have it hooked up by next race season. So 3:90's will ensure I don't run out of gear. I have my rev limiter set at 6800rpms. Is your 7g's from the factory?

With 3:90's 150shot and 7g's, you'll be fine. Might want to do some research on optimal tire size for the HP you'll be making and the gears you'll be running. I need to do that next.

Hope everything works out for you................I'm guessing you'll be needing a cage soon with that setup.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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I was shocked by the 13.1X at 99.9X as well, but hey, thats what they claim they ran. Which is why I am saying compared to an S2K from a roll, the S2K should win, the only way the GT does as well as it does in the 1/4 is because it has a GREAT suspension and decent tq.
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Old Oct 12, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Stanger88
I was shocked by the 13.1X at 99.9X as well, but hey, thats what they claim they ran. Which is why I am saying compared to an S2K from a roll, the S2K should win, the only way the GT does as well as it does in the 1/4 is because it has a GREAT suspension and decent tq.
The manuals trap higher than that,99 is a weak *** trap for a new stang. And that would put it even with a s2000 anyways not behind. Trust me I have raced them,they are not faster from a roll. My slowest trap speed was 101,and it was typicaly 102. I cut a 8.7 1/8th stock. A 13.1 at 99 would have to be a 1.7 60',if that is even at all possible on stock tires,which its not,I wouldn't expect to duplicate that time ever again.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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i ran an 05 GT manual (guy i know) a few months ago...car had around 5,XXX miles so i dont know if you would concider that broke in...went from a 40 kick and i murderd him...my car is pretty much stock....oh yeah...prolly didnt help him any that he didnt know how to drive his car and he had some 20 inch BLING BLINGS on it...what a deusch...he was talking so much crap about his car and so where his buddies...they were very confident that he would stomp me...well after i murderd him and we met back up in the walmart parking lot he had about 16 bazillion excuses why he lost (never mentioned the 16 ton 20 inch bling blingers though) and his buddies wouldnt say a word...i told him nice race and his car was nice...and asked if he wanted to race again (since he was puking excuses out of his mouth) but he wanted nothing to do with it...oh well...im pretty sure it would of been a better race with a guy who knew how to drive and minus the big chrome!!!
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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wow that mustang must have some special suspension.

I mean hell.. even the Evo and the STi trap at 104...... does this also mean my old SRT4 would walk a Mustang GT stock from a roll? I trapped 102.

I expected that the extra valve in the head to do a little more for top end...
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Motorhead6T5
The manuals trap higher than that,99 is a weak *** trap for a new stang. And that would put it even with a s2000 anyways not behind. Trust me I have raced them,they are not faster from a roll. My slowest trap speed was 101,and it was typicaly 102. I cut a 8.7 1/8th stock. A 13.1 at 99 would have to be a 1.7 60',if that is even at all possible on stock tires,which its not,I wouldn't expect to duplicate that time ever again.
I think it is possible.

Ages back there was a (I think) JMS vid in the s197 section on SN. It was one of the 1st publically accepted 05's running 12's.

According to them it had their CAI, 4.30 rear, ET streets and a flash tune. Stock exhaust, its was a M5.

They ran high 12 (12,9x) at just over 100mph trap speed.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
I think it is possible.

Ages back there was a (I think) JMS vid in the s197 section on SN. It was one of the 1st publically accepted 05's running 12's.

According to them it had their CAI, 4.30 rear, ET streets and a flash tune. Stock exhaust, its was a M5.

They ran high 12 (12,9x) at just over 100mph trap speed.

do they say what type of 60ft times he was gettin?
to run 12.9 and barely break 100mph means that thing can launch & hook!
if i could guess would be from those 4.30 gears, which would also drag his trap speed a bit.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SporkLover
wow that mustang must have some special suspension.

I mean hell.. even the Evo and the STi trap at 104...... does this also mean my old SRT4 would walk a Mustang GT stock from a roll? I trapped 102.

I expected that the extra valve in the head to do a little more for top end...
Careful. Even the BS car mags tested the SRT4 and it trapped 102 in stock form. Quick little 4 cyl but not good for a dig race. The mustangs extra valves helps but adding weight cancels it out. The new 05's weight more than previous years.

13.1X@99mph is a sign of a sub 1.9 60ft. To hit a 12 sec pass with a 2.0 (or about) you need about 106mph. Race Pages just cover NMRA so I'd bet my bottom dollar that car was on a drag radial or something stickier. 300chp and 3400+lb car isn't gonna run 13.1's on radials, sorry.

Oh and good kill to the originator. -Mark
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by black00TA
do they say what type of 60ft times he was gettin?
to run 12.9 and barely break 100mph means that thing can launch & hook!
if i could guess would be from those 4.30 gears, which would also drag his trap speed a bit.
bollox I was wrong. Just found the vid on my PC.

The mods where correct, but it was 12.4 @ 107mph

Still quite a low trap compared to ET, but then thats a Mustang.
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Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 300bhp/ton
bollox I was wrong. Just found the vid on my PC.

The mods where correct, but it was 12.4 @ 107mph

Still quite a low trap compared to ET, but then thats a Mustang.
before mods i was doin 13.39@109

i would give up a few mph for a second off my e.t
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