I hate Evos
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yup, a TB exhaust, and some good tuning will gain usually 50+ hp at the wheels on pump gas.
i gained about 60 at the wheels with exhaust/tuning cam gears and a litlt emore boost on pump gas, and about 90 at the wheels on race gas on a low low reading dyno.
i gained about 60 at the wheels with exhaust/tuning cam gears and a litlt emore boost on pump gas, and about 90 at the wheels on race gas on a low low reading dyno.
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Originally Posted by ArcAngel
Evos are not all that fast. Buddy of mine has an 06 I think. Whatever year has the leather recaros. Definately quick for what it is, but not near my SS, his is stock running 23 lbs boost, he has new BOV, and exhaust. Went from a 5mph roll, and lost him by several cars, both good drivers. I drove it and the power only comes from about 3-4.5 rpms, seems to slow down after that. Definately quick car, but imo nothing near a good LS1.
Originally Posted by Quik Z06
Ok I'll state the obvious...A BOV does nothing for power unless his stock valve was leaking. As for exhaust, for the best gains it has to be a turboback, not just a catback. So basically he's almost stock. If he were to add cams and a reflash or EMS, I can guarantee you would think different. LS1's are quick, but believe me it doesnt take much for an Evo to hang with or beat them, trust me
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For everyone whos getting pissy about me saying that I hate Evos take it easy. I don't hate them, it was just a figure of speech. I have tons of respect for them. Anything that can keep up with an LS1 gets props from me. I even gave him a thumbs up out the window before we slowed down. Some people read way to much into these threads, and some people just comment to say something with no point. Again bottom line is the Evo was fast. Obviously not stock if it kept up. According to everyone they can't keep up. So the fact that it did, to mean makes me think it wasn't stock.
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Exactly. Cam and Longtube your car. Then show him whats up.
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Originally Posted by EvilDylan
yup, a TB exhaust, and some good tuning will gain usually 50+ hp at the wheels on pump gas.
i gained about 60 at the wheels with exhaust/tuning cam gears and a litlt emore boost on pump gas, and about 90 at the wheels on race gas on a low low reading dyno.
i gained about 60 at the wheels with exhaust/tuning cam gears and a litlt emore boost on pump gas, and about 90 at the wheels on race gas on a low low reading dyno.
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Originally Posted by MetallicBluews6
Actually I do have a degree in Psychology. When I read the introduction it just seemed immature to me thats all. No big deal. I do get his point though.
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sorry to jump in and put my .02 in, but imo: the only good thing evo's have is awd from a dig on the street. at the track or from rolls, they are underpowered. i give them props, and i think they loook good from the front, but their track times/records are very unimpressive compared to stock bottom end/h&c/power adder ls1 times. especially, since quickest evo runs 9s.
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Originally Posted by evo_killer
sorry to jump in and put my .02 in, but imo: the only good thing evo's have is awd from a dig on the street. at the track or from rolls, they are underpowered. i give them props, and i think they loook good from the front, but their track times/records are very unimpressive compared to stock bottom end/h&c/power adder ls1 times. especially, since quickest evo runs 9s.
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If you altered the evo to produce 5.7L and took off the turbo would it produce the same results?
To the OP....a small 75 shot should get the job done against most evos.
To the OP....a small 75 shot should get the job done against most evos.
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After reading it again....who knows what you may need to pull on that EVo....you 2 didn't even race. So what he stayed close behind you, he could've been giving it all he had.
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Gotta love when someone says "oh but it only has 2 litres".
WHO CARES IF IT HAS 2 LITRES. That's the engine that the car comes with.
It's like saying..."well if I had a turbo I would be faster". I mean come on.
Dan
WHO CARES IF IT HAS 2 LITRES. That's the engine that the car comes with.
It's like saying..."well if I had a turbo I would be faster". I mean come on.
Dan
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evo's can be DEADLY FAST my buddy has one full turbo back exhaust camms fuel boostin an tuned he went 12.40 on a FUCKED up CLUTCH, there was more in it but it started 2 rain then on the way home he couldnt go past 3500 rpm lol i was laughin so hard.
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Originally Posted by evo_killer
sorry to jump in and put my .02 in, but imo: the only good thing evo's have is awd from a dig on the street. at the track or from rolls, they are underpowered. i give them props, and i think they loook good from the front, but their track times/records are very unimpressive compared to stock bottom end/h&c/power adder ls1 times. especially, since quickest evo runs 9s.
he quickest evo's in the states are in the 9's, but out of the country they are much faster. Consider that they have only had about 2.5 years of development in the states, not bad considering.
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Originally Posted by hurley_21_07
Gotta love when someone says "oh but it only has 2 litres".
WHO CARES IF IT HAS 2 LITRES. That's the engine that the car comes with.
It's like saying..."well if I had a turbo I would be faster". I mean come on.
Dan
WHO CARES IF IT HAS 2 LITRES. That's the engine that the car comes with.
It's like saying..."well if I had a turbo I would be faster". I mean come on.
Dan
if you cant respect the power the 2 liter produces then you really arent an enthusiast. You are just a brand loyal fanboi, who has no real concept of the true achievment in performance. Sad if that's true.
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To me its the sound...I cant stand a fart can or a weed eater exhuast, dont care if it goes to light speed. No sound like the sound of a muscle car be it V8 (small or big block).
Who are you to call some one a "non-enthusiast"? Why? because an opinion? This is an LS1 forum what you expect? There is more to a hot rod or a muscle car than 1/4 times. Yes they are fast little engines, great performance but honestly who
Who are you to call some one a "non-enthusiast"? Why? because an opinion? This is an LS1 forum what you expect? There is more to a hot rod or a muscle car than 1/4 times. Yes they are fast little engines, great performance but honestly who
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Originally Posted by EvilDylan
I cant help but to just laugh at this.
he quickest evo's in the states are in the 9's, but out of the country they are much faster. Consider that they have only had about 2.5 years of development in the states, not bad considering.
he quickest evo's in the states are in the 9's, but out of the country they are much faster. Consider that they have only had about 2.5 years of development in the states, not bad considering.
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Originally Posted by EvilDylan
if you cant respect the power the 2 liter produces then you really arent an enthusiast. You are just a brand loyal fanboi, who has no real concept of the true achievment in performance. Sad if that's true.
If brand X makes cars that can go 6's and brand Z makes cars that can go 9's with a motor half the size.....I can't help but to respect the car going 6's better.
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I got walked hard by an Evo, and that was with my mild cam. It was an MR model though. I'm 100% positive it was a low 12 sec. to a high 11 sec. car though. Fool literally played with my car, and almost rear ended me several times whilst I was gunning it. Embarrassing indeed. Just means you need more mods. For those members that think Evo's suck, watch the vid of the Evo smoking Procharged 640 whp Vettes for breakfast. Quick little cars, and very easy to mod. I use to own one at one time, loved the handling.
Oh yeah, good loss.
Oh yeah, good loss.