that shouldn't happen with an auto, unless you where manually holding it in 2nd, either that or somethings up with the PCM unit.

Stock the auto's should shift at ~6000rpm.

 

SRT4's are NOT AWD, they are FWD. and an LT1/LS1 is a drivers race. I remember when my X-gf kept telling me the best time she had seen out of stock LS1's was 14.4 etc. (at sealevel) and it was A4. SHe said the guy just couldnt drive, on the other hand, my cousin pulled 13.9 out of a 6-speed LT1 Z28 some time ago. Therefor, yes, its a drivers race, but you would have to be a pretty bad driver to make it one...

 

Was altitude an issue here? Otherwise, the srt is modded or the ls1 is not performing well.

 

300bhp, i redlined my old LT1 at something over 6K one time and it was auto, i just punched the hell out of the gas and it was raining and the tires gave way a little bit (didnt hit rev limiter i dont think) but yeah, it can be done, did it once when it was dry out too, but this was a downshift into 1st from the upper speed that it should be performed at i belive.

 

altitude was not an issue in our race, it took place in the chicagoland area, pretty flat around here. With the few bolt ons that I have though I figured my car would be in the mid 13's. I guess i am just that poor of a driver at this point. This guy seemed like he could really drive, he has had his car to the track many times. From all indications his car was stock, only a k&n intake. As far as teh car redlining, Im not sure, I wasn't watching the tachometer, but Ive had teh car at WOT before and didn't expereicne any jerking when the rpm's neared the rev limit, seems to be shifting fine.

 

well unless you where holding it in gear it should be impossible. I say someone had either screwed with the setting for the shift points or you had a problem with it. I've never seen or heard of anyone being able to do it before, and that's including driving 20+ different auto's from almost as many makes/models.

 

i've heard of it happening...specially when trannys start to go...or the mods start adding up...or someone witha tuner changed the shift points or rev limiter.

 

yep on all those accounts I can agree.

 

My ECU was stock, and my mods were CAI only. My tranny was in pretty good shape, the way i did it was punching the gas RIGHT AT THE EDGE of the end of 1st gear and it doenshifted into first and held it to about 6100rpm. I know it was in the red. Now this isnt to say my tach was off...BUT...it seemed dead on to me the rest of the time.

 

Your car is capable of mid to low 13's stock. I've seen quite a few stock auto F-Bods that have got a low 13 sec time. 13.9 is very capable for a stock SRT-4. Race him from a roll and see what happens

 

I wouldn't say it's a driver's race. A auto LS1 is faster than the SRT-4. If the LS1 can get traction early enough it's over for a stock SRT-4.

 

LS1 should kill teh SRT4. If my friends mild bolt-on 5.0 has pulled them, an LS1 should too, as my LT1 SLOWLY pulled my friends 5.0 and an LS1 walked me.

 

I was talking about the ls1 with the hesistation.

but isn't getting traction, but still accelerating fast(that inbetween..with a lil wheel spin, but not to much) part of the driver?...so if they drivers spins the tires to much and looses..why didn't he win...oh..cause its a driver's race. a .5 second difference in the q/m could be made up by, elevation, driver, track prep which are all varibles that can't be controlled. its not like a ls1 is 2 seconds faster usualyl than a srt4 in the q/m.

 

I agree that it could be a 'drivers race', but I think a lot of people don't like admitting it as it makes them feel less supirior.

Think about about it. An auto LS1 probably has a 1/4 mile ET range of 13.2 seconds to 14.5 seconds depending on the driver (and the surface they are racing on). The SRT4 probably has a 1/4 mile range of 13.9 - 15.5 seconds depending upon the driver.

So there is quite a reasonble over lap where a poor to averagely driven LS1 will get beaten by a good to very well driven SRT4.

Also, as mentioned track/road surface condition will be a factor as will the condition of the tyres and such. Plus going back to the driver, what about reaction time. There's no tree of timing machines. But assume the Fbody driver was a bit slow at reacting, and hit the loud pedal maybe 0.5 seconds late, then spins the wheels considerably. They could easily have lost 1-2+ seconds to the other car, and a fair amount of ground too.

 

Very true, my X gf used to tell me all the time about LS1's turning 14.4 etc. etc. and they were A4 too...

 

Guys your all lookin way to far into it...

ACHOTS.....Of course....

But the reality is that the fastest magazine time or time your gonna here about for a 100% bone stock SRT-4 is 13.9.....

The fastest time your gonna hear or read about for an LS1 F body is 12.9....

The differance is that 1 out of every 250 SRT-4's seems to be able to hit 13.9....

While it's more like 1 out of every 10,000 Fbodys can do it....

realisticaly at average tracks with average cars and average drivers....

The camaro will do know better than 13.3-13.5....With the SRT-4 doing no better than 14.0-14.2......

The mn6 is on average a solid 7 tenths quicker than the SRT-4....

But were not talking mn6 camaro were talking a4 camaro with possible base (highway) gears....

In this case ....The best the average a4 F body is gonna get with a average driver on an average track is 13.5-13.7.....vrs the SRT-4's average of 14.0-14.2...

Now your talking 5 tenths differance.....

Yes 90% of the time the a4 highway geared F body will take the SRT-4.....But if your a4 F body is on the low side of average...( 13.7 ) and the SRT-4 is one of the strong ones that runs 13.9.....Youve defiently got a drivers race on your hands....

ANYONE HERE WHO WANTS TO TRY TO SAY THAT A4 FBODYS DONT RUN 13.7 IN SOME CASES IS JUST SCARED TO ADMIT THE TRUTH....THERES LOTS OF A4 HIGHWAY GEARED F BODYS ON THIS BOARD WHO NEVER DID BETTER THAN 13.9 OR SO BONE STOCK....

Theres even a couple C5's over on corvette forum with the 2.73 gears who never did better than 13.8 or so bone stock.

At my personal track here in Hawaii the best Ive seen the SRT-4's do bone stock is 14.4...

My C5 did 13.5 and the a4 Fbodys are in the 13.7-13.9 range...

EIGHTER way you look at it the SRT-4 SHOULD always loose...

 

I obviously have not explained this enough on these boards.

WHAT ALTATUDE ARE YOU AT?

If its in Colorado or something, thats a huge factor. It could account for nearly half a second between cars.

 

No biggie man LS1 are the shi*. But I have to give respect to my wifes 05 SRT-4 Slighty modded that thing is quick. I like, let me rephrase that My wife likes to pick on some stangers and imports. They can go and for only having 4Cyls I give it props.

 

buahahahahah this is the funniest thing ive ever heard. just shut the **** up guy, you dont know a god damn thing.

 

Put it this way what I mean by faster is if both cars punched it at like let's say 20 mph the LS1 would pull away.