I raced a wrx with 14# of boost on an after market turbo and i took him by about 1/2 a car with only a lid and full exaust. YOu should have no prob! SPRAY just so it wont even be a race and he'll want to sell his car!

 

Agreed. But if if does make 455 AWHP (I doubt it seriously), and he can drive and launch, you won't win through the quarter unless you are on some slicks.

I don't understand why all these peope are saying you will destroy him. With AWD, almost as much power, and being lighter, I would say it would be a tough battle through the quarter. From a roll you should win, but rolls are for ricers.

 

14 pounds of boost is stock on WRX's. If I wrong someone correct me. But I am pretty sure.

 

Seriously, who has a 12blt/9" and doesn't use slicks/ET Streets?

You're not going to break a 10blt on radials. Most people that upgrade do so because they ARE using tires. That shouldn't even be a question...


Without the spray the TA should be capable of 1.5 60's easy if the kid can drive. On dope maybe 1.4's.

Scooby Doo should also be "capable" of 1.5-1.6 60's even on radials if the acclaimed HP is accurate and he can drive. However my guess would be this kid is probably not gonna know the first thing about launching a 450whp AWD car...


My money's on the TA raping the cartoon "all the ray down the ruarter rile".

 

Alot of you have this sense that it's awd and the car just stop moving at speed above 100mph. It just more drivetrain loss from flywheel but if it's 450 to the wheel (I highly doubt) **** is gonna be rocket at any speed.

 

That's hilarious! Hehehehe.

 

I cant believe the wrx guy dumped that much money into it. He would have been better off getting an sti. The sti drive train is alot more stout than a wrx plus they have .5 more liters.

 

He will blow the tranny. Those WRX trannies are simply not made for that much power. I agree w/ pocket- He should have just got an STI. For $7k he could have got the STI w/ $2k to put into it. Also the EJ20 block stock is not good for much more that 450 (reliably). So unless he builds the bottom he will remain at that level for a while.

Bro, you need to show this ****** up and be done w/ it.

 

what can i say? i don't like them. i had to listen to a kid my whole freshman year of college talk about how STi's were a marvel of engineering. i'd tell him you can get any car to 300hp with a big enough turbo. he'd go on and on and on (i worked on an engineering project with him). i can't even look at them now without getting annoyed. and sorry, they're not the greatest sounding things out there

 

i never said he needed headers to beat the WRX. i meant he needs them in general and he shoulda done it a long time ago. running a procharger with no headers is like filling up a swimming pool through a straw. so much potential is being lost. 490hp with no headers is a huge number. if he gets headers and a tune, i bet he'd be near 540hp.

 

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I kinda like the boxer rumble on a subtle exhaust setup.
Mine (not an STi) is dead quiet- all you can hear is the wastegate.
I'm aware of the car's strengths and weaknesses.

 

meh, it's personal taste. i personally can't stand anything with less than 8 cylinders, but i have a very low tolerance when it comes to sound. if it sounds even the least bit questionable, i'lll say it sounds shitty. if i tell you your car sounds good, it sounds awesome. i'm just picky, that's all.

 

It's hard to gauge a setup when there are multiple spelling mistakes, cats spelt catz, and spark plugs listed. Im sure I sound like an *******, but with a car like that I think you could write a better mod list.


Oh yea, and throw a tire on there and you will beat him badly. Thats a pretty beefy drivetrain, might as well use it.

 

I hate to be a party pooper but You may lose. My point is if he has a t step he can leave the line in fulll boost. If he has an auto he can do the same. I drove my roomates wrx a while ago, Background on his car was full ecm,GT40 60 turbo header ported head and upgraded wastegate, Allot of other **** too. I drove it to get dyoned while he was in the hospital( Knee surg) with 18 psi running 108 vp and spraying meth the car made 510awhp 470awtq. We drove to san an for tnt first past was 11.4 with a 1.56 60' at 125mph I launch it at 6,800 with 14psi full boost was set at 18. So dont get to happy just hope he cant drive because after the 60 those little fokers pull

Just for fun I race him with my turbo z 8 psi and pulled a fender on him but I had to play catch up bad

 

11.4 with a 1.5 60ft ans 510 HP is not very impressive at all.

 

I really hope that kid has done an STI trans swap cuz those stock WRX trannies can only hold up to 350awhp before they pop. He has a crap load of money into this car if he did it correctly. The STI trannies are about 6K themselves. And he has to have a built engine to run that much power as well. He has an easy 15K into this car if he did it right. It should run low 11's if he can drive, but he's gonna have to launch really high (above 5500rpms) to not bog. You should take him, but I'd spray just to prove a point.

 

my buddy with a wrx says the stock trans is only good for 300 hp at the most so if hes pushing 450 on the stock trans he wont be racing it for very long.

 

For those that dont live in Colorado...

The shops tend to lay out some seriously huge correction factors when they dyno. Like 24%. For just WHP.

So frankly all these numbers being thrown around a are pretty pointless IMHO. How do you know you have "about 490". On stock Mani's? I dunno about that, even with a P1SC. What shop did you dyno at? What correction did they use? Or is it just an estimate? Estimates are dangerous. They lead to dissapointment. Many a owners bubble burst by a trip to the dyno. Thats really true of WRXs (had to throw that in there, all in good fun )

Where did he dyno. Mac Autosport out in Parker for instance tends to put out some very optimistic numbers from their AWD dyno. Not inaccurate, just a bit high. This kid sounds like a real money and dreams type, and that does not a fast car make. Especially in high boost apps where expirience and personal knowledge goes a lot farther than cash.

So frankly I would not read too much into the supposed power levels.

Im betting on you. Altatude sucks for NA cars, but that blower means you have really compensated for that. With the built driveline, you have also taken his hole shot advantage. And I have yet to see WRXs that hang with mean blown LS1s powerwise in any sort of numbers. I'm sure they are out there, but you average kid with 7K does not have one.

Waste him. If this is a real race with real cars. I'm not convinced it is. No offense, I'm just not.

 

yea i have been to mac, pro performance, i have been to dyno pros, what do u mean real cars and my numbers that i posted where on mustang dyno so ?? and as for the wrx as i would hate to defend it, yea this is my best friend and I know he orderd alot of **** i seen it and he is doing an 2.5 swap with 2 ltr heads. he is looking to see what the best run he can get out of this motor tranny combo cause once one goes he is doing the swap, so the ? of this being a real car yes of course. what you think im going to come on here and lie to people i dont even know lol what a joke. and as for you comment, money does not make a car fast I think thats the biggest joke i have ever heard. cant he take 120 dollars to mac autosports and have them tune his utec after all they are colorados leading all wheel drive shop right? ok so back to what i was saying this race if everything goes right with me have bfg radials, can i cut a 60 like this guy would?

 

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The 9" supports the high rpm launch necessary to cut a good 60'.
What puts the power to the ground are the necessary suspension items- Heavy duty sway bar, Tq. Arm, LCA's, PHB and the proper shocks and springs to see nasty 60's.

Without knowing how to launch very well, I used to cut 1.7x's on drag radials on stock suspension (except a BMR RSB) and a 9" because the big ol' BMR drag specific sway bar I had back there would do a wonderful job. I coulda done better however.