Ok. first and foremost, I am the one that owns the Z. there are many statements on here that are twisted. The first thing, I HAVE NEVER RACED HIM!!! The time he is refering to is when we were drivin in the city and we stepped on it at a light just messing around. I shifted before i even hit five grand and then slowed down because we were flying through a few intersections, which isnt the safest thing. I had only had the car for 2 days and it had less than 200 miles on it. I dont know about you guys, but im pretty sure none of you would go and all out race your car way before its even broke in. thats stupid, it would be the dumbest way to blow the engine in a $40,000 car. I told him this, and said let me break it in first. the second thing, about the LS1 engine; I was refering to the one thats in the 99 ss camaro, because that is what he was driving. I know for damn sure it was not the same one as the one in the C6. The 99 ls1 had 320 hp at the crank and was pushing about 290 +/-5hp or so to the wheels. I had 306 stock, but I had Nismo header, full exaust, inclunding the high flow cats, and a full stillen intake installed. right now I am making around 335 or so hp at the crank. so probably around 295-300 at the wheels. the corvette was pushing 345 with the ls1, and the c6 is making 400 with the ls2. I know my ****, and I am not a retard to think I could flat out take a vette in a quarter mile. The statement that my friend cabe told you was one taken completely out of context. I did in fact beat a C6 vette. It was an automatic, and there were two girls inthe car. enough said about that. If you dont know how to drive a car like that, on the freeway, 4 tenths of a second isnt ****. you should all know this. If there had been an actual decent driver in that car, they would have easily taken me. but there wasnt, end of story. Now about that kid that talked about forza motorsports series; I watched it. In fact, if that show was so f'ing accurated for you to use that as a source, why in the hell did the girl with the mustang win?!?!?! enough said about that. that show was bullshit. it was just TV. And about the z they used in that show... It was an 06, way different car from the 07, about 35rwhp difference. Also, I'd like to note, at the end of the show, the last drag race match, the Z ran in the 11's and posted the fastest drag time, even better so than the vette. that was a 06, the 07 has dual throttle bodies and will do even better than that one did with mods. Now if you wanna look at straight facts, the SS camaro runs a 5.2 0-60, and a 13.6 quarter. the Z runs a 5.2 0-60 and a 13.7 quarter. this is according to road and track. Take that camaro through the twisties at the same speed as a Z and see what happens, probably the same thing as happened to cabe, you'll loose control. solid rear axle is not the way to go. bottom line. Now im sure everyone will dispute this, but that is what was written about both cars tested by proffesional drivers. I would say lets race, but someone crashed their nice *** car like an idiot, and so i'll have to wait till he gets another one. Until then, make sure you get reliable facts, and quit speculating, and most of all, make sure you here both side of a story so as not to get a biased opinion, and here a story with facts and statements left out. BOTTOM LINE: DRIVERS RACE!!!