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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Websy21
This thread has me thinking now, anybody want to by a 01 WS6? I'll trade ya for a WS6 plus cash? How does twin turbo's sound on a cobalt
Hopefully it doesn't hurt toooooo much to think! For the record GM thinks one turbo is the best set-up. They do add 4 additional injectors to their mini race cars.

Jake the stud that he is , is getting a couple of rescue pits for room mates . If they get along there could be some Jake Jr's. I think I'll name them after some of you. Thinking about that makes me want to *** Clown #1, 2, 3, etc. also works.
Old Aug 11, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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they need to turbo them or something cause they cant keep up with any of the other 4cyl in their class (sti,evo,????)
Old Aug 11, 2007 | 12:35 PM
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We are in the Street Racing and Kill section. No race=
Old Aug 11, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by brian06eleanor
they need to turbo them or something cause they cant keep up with any of the other 4cyl in their class (sti,evo,????)
Man I had almost dozed off and then someone had to say the Cobalt needs a turbo to keep up with a STI and EVO. Obviously you've never raced a FWD car? How can a AWD 300 hp. car be in the same class as a 205 hp FWD?

The old Z24 auto and manual were high 15 second cars at best. The SS Cobalt was a low 14 second car in almost anyones hands. Thats a big improvement. INSURANCE killed the Cobalt SS.

Same thing might happen to the 2009 Camaro SS with 400+ hp. You young guys can't keep the damn car on the road. Can't keep from driving them 140 mph. Can't keep from killing yourself and injuring others. ie Enjoy your ELECTRIC CARS
Old Aug 11, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by brian06eleanor
they need to turbo them or something cause they cant keep up with any of the other 4cyl in their class (sti,evo,????)
They're not in the same class, sti and evo are $30k plus out the door, the Cobalt SS was around $20k. Target market and intended usage was completely different, and the hp ratings reflect that.

I think it would be awesome for Chevy to "represent" however and have a tuned and turbo'ed Cobalt at the $30k price range just to get in on some of that action. Marketing better would help this as well. Maybe in transformers 2, bumblebee's little sister (oops I mean brother) could be a cobalt turbo or something. A pink one.
Old Aug 11, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Indeed a GM AWD vehicle in anything besides an SUV would be something I think GM could market and sell. GM has money in SAAB and SUBURA so it wouldn't be too hard to build a few AWD cars
Old Aug 11, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jakes Dad
Indeed a GM AWD vehicle in anything besides an SUV would be something I think GM could market and sell. GM has money in SAAB and SUBURA so it wouldn't be too hard to build a few AWD cars
They sold off their Subaru/Fuji Heavy Industries shares to TOY.

I would consider buying an AWD/turbo 4 banger, U.S. built GM (or even an Opel/Vauxhall built, imported one). It would be cool if they got into the WRC and started to kick Euro/Nippon azz there!!
Old Aug 12, 2007 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakes Dad
Man I had almost dozed off and then someone had to say the Cobalt needs a turbo to keep up with a STI and EVO. Obviously you've never raced a FWD car? How can a AWD 300 hp. car be in the same class as a 205 hp FWD?

The old Z24 auto and manual were high 15 second cars at best. The SS Cobalt was a low 14 second car in almost anyones hands. Thats a big improvement. INSURANCE killed the Cobalt SS.

Same thing might happen to the 2009 Camaro SS with 400+ hp. You young guys can't keep the damn car on the road. Can't keep from driving them 140 mph. Can't keep from killing yourself and injuring others. ie Enjoy your ELECTRIC CARS
okay excuse me, it cant keep up with a ???? (skittle). n i have raced fwd cars i owned a s r t for 2 years. theres just not enough aftermarket for the cars, and there superchargers dont have enough potential. are there 350fwhpcobalts with the factory blower, because there are many 350 few stock turbo neons
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Old Aug 12, 2007 | 09:26 AM
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Why would someone cry over ALMOST ( as claimed by the OP ) getting beat by another car be it a Cobalt or anything else. Where I come from, almost doesn't count and a win is a win. Do you put on a troll outfit before you post this useless bullshit ?
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Cobalt's seem to be in the same class and price range as ?????'s and i think the ?????'s a much better car, but that's not being made anymore either. Looks like they're done with the small toys and bringing back the big guns.
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Originally Posted by brian06eleanor
are there 350fwhpcobalts with the factory blower, because there are many 350 few stock turbo neons
Outside of nitrous, I guarantee that there are no 350 whp, stock turbo S R T - 4s.
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted by brian06eleanor
they need to turbo them or something cause they cant keep up with any of the other 4cyl in their class (sti,evo,????)
I don't understand this post because last I checked the Evo, and the STI both come with turbos from the factory. Oh yeah and the Cobalt SS cost 20k or so and the Evo and STI like low to mid 30's so I don't think they're in the same class just becuase they both have 4 bangers. I'm suprised you don't compare the Cobalt to a CBR... "they both got 4 cylindas foo!!!"

Just messin with ya. I actually think Cobalt SS's are comparable to Civic SI and Acura RSX but this thread is worthless without a kill story.
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 03:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Jakes Dad
No rejoicing here. I like the little car. I enjoy reading the adventures of Cobalt owners. I enjoy having them on the used car lot. I enjoyed selling them new.

My young fellow American.

I bought a 1997 Z24 new. It was an automatic FWD with the LD-9 engine. All it needed was a little Nitrous and it was in the 13's, on street tires, in the 1/4 mile @ almost 104 mph, long before GM thought about changing the name from Cavalier to Cobalt. Long before GM retired the J-Body and built the Cobalt on the Delta platform. But hopefully since I went to the J-Body Bash at Lordstown Ohio in 1999, 2000, 2001, and 2002 they saw how quick their little compact poop box could be.

All I was doing was keeping LS-1 informed.

BS alittle nitrous to make that z24 dip into the 13's my old DD 3.8l camaro would beat my bosses Z24 all day long and the camaro was a 15 sec car at best
Old Aug 24, 2007 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Websy21
This thread has me thinking now, anybody want to by a 01 WS6? I'll trade ya for a WS6 plus cash? How does twin turbo's sound on a cobalt
No offense, but hahnracecraft makes a kit for the cobalt ss that retains the factory supercharger and adds a turbo, netting the car over 400whp if I remember correctly. I know that yesterday while I was waiting my for the 02 camaro I am buying to come back from getting detailed to drive it a bit, I took out a SS supercharged cobalt, and it was fun.... I just wish it was faster than the skittle stock...

I have a friend that has a non- ss cobalt, and I think it is a nice car to ride in, the interior quality is much higher than most domestic econo-boxes. Now I am not jumping the ls1 bandwagon, but the cobalt ss is a pretty fun little car that is even semi-drivable in the north-east winters.... whereas I am buying a camaro in the end of august and it will be going in the garage in the beginning of november.
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Originally Posted by PowerShift408
Outside of nitrous, I guarantee that there are no 350 whp, stock turbo S R T - 4s.
I am sure that there are a few skittles with stock turbo in the 400ish whp range, and there are several 800+ hp skittles running around the country with aftermarket turbo's. Yea, you need to add a stronger bottom end at over 500whp and the tranny is gonna need stronger shift forks to actually take a beating, but at the end of the day the skittles can be fast. It really sucks that the typical owner is 17 and thinks that the car is invincible stock. I happen to know of an skittle driven by a chick (www.srtgurl.com) that is getting in the 800 whp range, and I would sure hate to line up next to her at lvd, considering she already has 11 second timeslips before her latest amount of work; back when she was just a little over 400 whp. (if I remember correctly, I haven't been in the skittle loop for close to a year now, but they aren't as ***** (when modded correctly)).

The skittle can get pretty darn close to 400 whp on stock turbo, but it requires a lot more work than just going to a bigger turbo. You would need ported heads, about 30lbs of boost, a more aggresive cam, cold air intake, free-er flowing exhaust manifold, a custom intake manifold with a more efficient plenum, you could even go the methanol water injection route to get there. One of the most overlooked things with skittles is the tune.

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