Automatic SS vs. Manual SS
Automatic SS vs. Manual SS What in the hell!!!!!! I have an automatic 2001 SS, all I have done to my car is add Flowmaster, K&N Filter, and New Goodyear F1s(NOT THE SAME ONES THAT COME WITH THE CAR THESE ARE DIFFERENT). I also happen to bee one of the 10% with the LS6 block. I bought this car used, so I have no clue what the original owner has done. I pulled up to the light, a black SS pulls up, it was a manual. His car had a new cam, headers, borla, and intake. After we got done talking he brought up a little race I said ok, but I know i'll lose, he laughed and said you never know. I shifted down to first from drive, shortly there after the light turned green the LS1s roared. Suprisinly I killed him off the line. He missed no shifts, and still never cought up. I didn't get the chance to talk to the driver again, but I destroyed him. What the hell happened!?!?!?!?!?!
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Re: Automatic SS vs. Manual SS A4's run great off the line. He probably spun all the way through 3rd. As you described his car, he's probably makin' great power. Or, maybe he bogged off the line. He could have also missed a shift? Anyhow, great run! 
What counts in the end is who won, even if human error accounts for the outcome. I lost once to a '98 A4 Z28 when all I had done was Longtubes. He was quick to tell me that he was happy to have killed an SS, even though I had reeled him in at the end and lost by a nose length (he got a great jump off the line). Bottom line is that he won, and had all the right in the world to be happy for his kill. The beauty of it is that we ran again, I adjusted for the launch, and killed him by a couple car lengths. He took off quickly after his defeat and I didn't get a chance to return the trash talk, but I was damn happy.
What counts in the end is who won, even if human error accounts for the outcome. I lost once to a '98 A4 Z28 when all I had done was Longtubes. He was quick to tell me that he was happy to have killed an SS, even though I had reeled him in at the end and lost by a nose length (he got a great jump off the line). Bottom line is that he won, and had all the right in the world to be happy for his kill. The beauty of it is that we ran again, I adjusted for the launch, and killed him by a couple car lengths. He took off quickly after his defeat and I didn't get a chance to return the trash talk, but I was damn happy. Re: Automatic SS vs. Manual SS yep....its hard for us M6 guys to race from a dead stop against an auto car (unless you have so much hp that even spinning you outrun the guy 
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nice run....
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Re: Automatic SS vs. Manual SS Tire spin can be quiet. I can mash the gas, light up the tires w/ no screeching. We're not trying to reduce the validity of your win, just trying to answer your "what the hell happened!" question. 
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Re: Automatic SS vs. Manual SS
How is manually shifting an automatic bad?
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Re: Automatic SS vs. Manual SS throwing it in D doesn't work on my car with the 3.73. For some reason with the gears it F***S up the shifting. The only way to get good numbers out of my car is to manually shift it. By the way, nice kill
Re: Automatic SS vs. Manual SS Listen to PSJ. He's knows his stuff. Your car will thank you and your ET will be faster. I used to shift my A4 manually too when I didn't know any better. Throw it in "D" and mash the gas.
However, having said that, your transmission will never miss a shift, or keep it in 2nd gear until 9,000 rpms because its not paying attention.
I'd pop it in D and let it do what it was designed to do, your not making it shift faster by doing that.
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Re: Automatic SS vs. Manual SS
throwing it in D doesn't work on my car with the 3.73. For some reason with the gears it F***S up the shifting. The only way to get good numbers out of my car is to manually shift it. By the way, nice kill
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Re: Automatic SS vs. Manual SS For the LS1 trucks, its not that manually shifting is quicker, its that they can shift closer to redline and therefore get more out of each gear. When in Drive, the trucks shift at 5,100rpms, yet they redline at 6,000ish.
But, with that said, I must also advise you to never manually shift your 4L60E. I destroyed my 4L65E (a stronger version of the 4L60E) by manually shifting it, and only managed to pick up 2mph in the process. And I dont think a 2mph gain was worth a $3,000 dollar transmission.
But, with that said, I must also advise you to never manually shift your 4L60E. I destroyed my 4L65E (a stronger version of the 4L60E) by manually shifting it, and only managed to pick up 2mph in the process. And I dont think a 2mph gain was worth a $3,000 dollar transmission.
Re: Automatic SS vs. Manual SS Hybrid Slow, you shouldn't shift that high in the rpm level. At around 5,700 rpm the power curve takes a dramatic drop 10-20 hp, and keeps lowering. This is what I have concurred from dyno runs.
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Re: Automatic SS vs. Manual SS It may be bad to shift an A4 manually, but sometimes you have to. Like going from a roll. You want to be in the right gear. There would be a major disadvantage if you had to wait for the tranny to kick itself down when you hit the gas.
I have noticed though, that it is better for track times to shift it manually when I'm running N/A. I usually add a couple mph, and my e.t. is a tenth or two better. Maily because I can push it farther in every gear. However, I NEVER shift manually when I'm on the bottle. Mainly because I sometimes bounce it off the rev limiter while shifting manually, and we all know that's not good when you're on the bottle.
Good kill BTW.
I have noticed though, that it is better for track times to shift it manually when I'm running N/A. I usually add a couple mph, and my e.t. is a tenth or two better. Maily because I can push it farther in every gear. However, I NEVER shift manually when I'm on the bottle. Mainly because I sometimes bounce it off the rev limiter while shifting manually, and we all know that's not good when you're on the bottle.
Good kill BTW.
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Re: Automatic SS vs. Manual SS
It may be bad to shift an A4 manually, but sometimes you have to. Like going from a roll. You want to be in the right gear. There would be a major disadvantage if you had to wait for the tranny to kick itself down when you hit the gas.