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Old Feb 10, 2009 | 10:14 PM
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I cant seem to find them anywhere. Looking at a used set for a nice price but didnt know how they compare to stock ones? i assume they are better, but how much thicker are they? Anybody using them?
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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They advertized them as 32.5mm front hollow and 21.5mm rear solid I think. The stock ones are 30mm front and 19mm rear.

I thought they were a good improvement over the stock bars when I had them.
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Old Feb 11, 2009 | 09:19 AM
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A fatter front would balance the car out a little better. You'll definitely feel a difference regardless
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You can do better, a number of ways.

First any SS or WS6 comes with a factory 32mm bar stock. If you are hell bent on a 32/21 type stiffness combo then you could team up an OEM 32mm front with my 22mm rear hollow. The balance is the same, but you save about 5 or 6 pounds of unsprung weight.

But, I don't like a 32/21-22 combo as it's too stiff in the back relative to the frotn. Either stay on a 32/19, or move to a 35/22 setup if you want the higher roll stiffness without the rear being overly firm vs. the front.

If you ask anyone who likes to turn and has run various setups you'll find those that have tried both 32/21, 32/19 and 35/22 combos will tell you the 32/21 is too much rear bar for good balance at the limit (same with 35/25).

And fwiw, it was a common trick for some companies to recoat GM bars (exactly the same stamping marks and diameter w/o the powdercoat). So it's worth doing some homework here.
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how bout the hotchkis bars. how would those compare to theese.
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how bout the hotchkis bars. how would those compare to theese.
Same thing... It's all about balance. Those are like 35-36mm front??? and 25mm rear. 25 rear is too big unless you want a big drag bar. You will notice even more of a difference with that setup, but expect to be pretty tail happy when you get moving.

35-36 front and 21-22 rear is generally a good rule of thumb. I think most people should start there. If you feel they should be stiffer in the front or in the back, then you can change in the future. Suspension preferences vary for different people but Sam and others with experience will suggest this balanced setup since a lot of people don't understand the suspension that well yet.
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Old Feb 12, 2009 | 02:34 PM
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I sell Hotchkis, and had I felt that that much rear was best I'd never had done my bars. The Hotchkis quality is great I just think the rear bar is too much relative to the front, just like I think a 21 or 22 is too much with a 32mm front. I like the bigger front and a mid sized rear for what I feel it balanced and proven handling results.
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Forgive the question, but what does it mean when a car is too tail happy?
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Originally Posted by Cumbias
Forgive the question, but what does it mean when a car is too tail happy?
Think "dukes of hazzard oversteer."
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Loose, tail wagging the dog, roundy-round guy would say that's what happens when you hit the wall with the back end first.

Otherwise known as oversteer.
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Ok, so the rear is forcing itself to line up straight when making a turn. Almost like it wants to spin out???
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Originally Posted by Cumbias
Ok, so the rear is forcing itself to line up straight when making a turn. Almost like it wants to spin out???
tail happy = oversteer
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Originally Posted by z28bryan
tail happy = oversteer
Ima have to look into that to understand it better. Thanks for the answers.
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Originally Posted by Cumbias
Ima have to look into that to understand it better. Thanks for the answers.
Play gran turismo on playstation or forza motorsport on xbox 360. That's where I started my motorsports career . Seriously, I learned a lot of the basic racing concepts from playing Gran Turismo 1 and they teach you about oversteer and understeer.
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Ok, looked it up and now I understand what oversteer and understeer.
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I may have a rear Hotchis sway bar for sale if the buyer of my front doesnt want it by tomorrow!
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