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Old Apr 1, 2020 | 01:53 PM
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So I'm running into an issue with my wheel base. I have adjustable rear control arms, QP 9", adjustable TA and panhard bar. I measured the wheel base on both sides and I'm off 5/8th's of an inch in total. I have my LCA's set to the lowest hole on the rend end mount and I measure out 103" driver side and 102 3/8th's passenger (measuring center front hub to center rear axle). Anybody ever run into this issue before? Obviously adjust control arms to make the wheel base equal?
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I have seen this, but that is a bunch IMO, and you likely feel the same since you posted. There are times I use rear steer for the drag strip, which impacts these distances, but not 5/8" by any means. A 1/8" to 1/4" of rear steer makes a big difference when used to keep a car straight on the launch and under heavy acceleration. The lower bars are what you would use to adjust this. Curious if you can measure the center to center distance of both LCA and see if they are different lengths?

Is the car crab walking or another issue with tracking? Or is this a new build or "putting back together after fabrication"? Sorry for the questions.

Does this help? New to LS1Tech, but not new to chassis and suspension work.
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I have seen this, but that is a bunch IMO, and you likely feel the same since you posted. There are times I use rear steer for the drag strip, which impacts these distances, but not 5/8" by any means. A 1/8" to 1/4" of rear steer makes a big difference when used to keep a car straight on the launch and under heavy acceleration. The lower bars are what you would use to adjust this. Curious if you can measure the center to center distance of both LCA and see if they are different lengths?

Is the car crab walking or another issue with tracking? Or is this a new build or "putting back together after fabrication"? Sorry for the questions.

Does this help? New to LS1Tech, but not new to chassis and suspension work.
Thanks for the response and welcome to ls1tech! I did measure the front mounting hole to the rear mounting hole of the control arm itself and they both match up the same at just about 20 inches. I did notice the the other day when I was doing about 120 messing around with an str8 that the thing felt squirly. It felt like the apollo 18 taking off into the atmosphere kinda squirly so I instantly backed of. It's somewhat a new build, I blew the rear end at the end of the season last year and put the 9" in and only really took it out maybe once or twice before I put it away for winter and so I'm just trying dial in the suspention for the season. Car is mainly a street car but will see the track maybe once or twice a year
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What kind of car is this? Custom work on rear or all factory just with upgraded arms? Sorry if that is posted somewhere and I missed it. Toe in on the front can screw with you if one wheel is turned in/out more than the other and you are trying to get in the center of the hub/spindle. If the front lower control arm as a lower ball joint with a grease fitting you can measure off that point to avoid toe in/out screwing with you on measuring front to rear. The top end issue you are describing sounds more like something is dancing under load, so I am curious if you have upgraded bushing in the rear or if you are running solid mount heim joints? I would double and triple check on my mount points to make sure everything is tight with no play. With the rear bars equal length I would not start messing with wheelbase until you confirmed with a different point of reference upfront, like a ball joint.


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What kind of car is this? Custom work on rear or all factory just with upgraded arms? Sorry if that is posted somewhere and I missed it. Toe in on the front can screw with you if one wheel is turned in/out more than the other and you are trying to get in the center of the hub/spindle. If the front lower control arm as a lower ball joint with a grease fitting you can measure off that point to avoid toe in/out screwing with you on measuring front to rear. The top end issue you are describing sounds more like something is dancing under load, so I am curious if you have upgraded bushing in the rear or if you are running solid mount heim joints? I would double and triple check on my mount points to make sure everything is tight with no play. With the rear bars equal length I would not start messing with wheelbase until you confirmed with a different point of reference upfront, like a ball joint.
It's a 1998 trans am. In the rear I have adjustable control arms, adjustable pan hard bar, adjustable torque arm, springs all around and strange engineering shocks in the rear but koni shocks up front. For rear lower control arm mounts I have poly on one end and the spherical joints (or however you spell it) on the other end. For the ball joints up front they're still just stock style non greasable ones
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