BIG brake choice's?
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BIG brake choice's?
Obviously I would like the car to stop better with a 4+ piston setup...especially with the new power under the hood. I have no intentions on AutoXing and 1320 times will be limited. In addition to nose bleed type stopping power, they have to look good and the quality has to be there. I'm sure I can't go wrong with the manufacturer's listed but would like some opinions based real world experience:
Wilwood - $$ - Nice upgrade but not my favorite.
Stoptech - $$$ - Closer to what I'm looking for.
Baer Extreme + (6S) - $$$$ - What I'd REALLY like but am I paying for the name?
Wilwood - $$ - Nice upgrade but not my favorite.
Stoptech - $$$ - Closer to what I'm looking for.
Baer Extreme + (6S) - $$$$ - What I'd REALLY like but am I paying for the name?
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Any of the kits you've listed will do what you ask. I've got a custom Wilwood 6 piston kit from Precision Brakes (sponsor) and it has done everything I've asked of it (including turning the rotors purple from heat) and stopped the car perfectly and without drama every time (even when beating on them on 315/35-17 Hoosier race tires). They really build a nice kit.
I've also installed the Porsche based kits from ProStop Performance. The Porsche pads and parts are a bit more expensive than the Wilwood pads/parts (or that has been my experience) and the kit is a bit more costly (and installation is slightly more complicated). However, if I were doing a Porsche kit, I'd suggest looking into the one built by ProStop Performance.
You'll never find the limits of either of these kits on the street, so the choice will come down to your budget and your prefered cosmetics.
I've also installed the Porsche based kits from ProStop Performance. The Porsche pads and parts are a bit more expensive than the Wilwood pads/parts (or that has been my experience) and the kit is a bit more costly (and installation is slightly more complicated). However, if I were doing a Porsche kit, I'd suggest looking into the one built by ProStop Performance.
You'll never find the limits of either of these kits on the street, so the choice will come down to your budget and your prefered cosmetics.
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Originally Posted by mitchntx
I had this kit (or it's predacessor) installed and absolutley loved the brakes ...
I highly recommend this kit ...
I highly recommend this kit ...
Both are superb kits. I have the Porsche Kit myself. The only real difference is the the Porsche calipers are Monoblok and the pads are just a little bigger .
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Can't go wrong with Wilwood, Stoptech, ProStop Porsche Brembos, however be aware with the Baer Brakes might be a tad bit overkill, since they'll require at least an 18 inch rim. If you install 18 inch rims equipped with the tyres to yield the standard overall wheel diameter, then you'll also hurt your performance with cornering as 4th gen f-bodies don't manoeuvre well with this type of wheel combo.
Also, the extra mass with the Baer 6S kits may be undesired for improving brake performance, especially if you opt for a 14 inch rotor, which can still yield less overall weight than the stock rotor, however the rotational weight will be at a larger radius from the centre of the wheel.
My vote, use one of the kits above that will fit some sort of 17 inch diameter rim. If you don't plan on at least autocrossing, which big brakes rarely improve performance with, then you're mostly spending for looks as the tyre compound will serve as a more important means of improving stopping performance at about most legal street speeds.
Also, the extra mass with the Baer 6S kits may be undesired for improving brake performance, especially if you opt for a 14 inch rotor, which can still yield less overall weight than the stock rotor, however the rotational weight will be at a larger radius from the centre of the wheel.
My vote, use one of the kits above that will fit some sort of 17 inch diameter rim. If you don't plan on at least autocrossing, which big brakes rarely improve performance with, then you're mostly spending for looks as the tyre compound will serve as a more important means of improving stopping performance at about most legal street speeds.
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Originally Posted by Foxxton
Can't go wrong with Wilwood, Stoptech, ProStop Porsche Brembos, however be aware with the Baer Brakes might be a tad bit overkill, since they'll require at least an 18 inch rim. If you install 18 inch rims equipped with the tyres to yield the standard overall wheel diameter, then you'll also hurt your performance with cornering as 4th gen f-bodies don't manoeuvre well with this type of wheel combo.
Also, the extra mass with the Baer 6S kits may be undesired for improving brake performance, especially if you opt for a 14 inch rotor, which can still yield less overall weight than the stock rotor, however the rotational weight will be at a larger radius from the centre of the wheel.
My vote, use one of the kits above that will fit some sort of 17 inch diameter rim. If you don't plan on at least autocrossing, which big brakes rarely improve performance with, then you're mostly spending for looks as the tyre compound will serve as a more important means of improving stopping performance at about most legal street speeds.
Also, the extra mass with the Baer 6S kits may be undesired for improving brake performance, especially if you opt for a 14 inch rotor, which can still yield less overall weight than the stock rotor, however the rotational weight will be at a larger radius from the centre of the wheel.
My vote, use one of the kits above that will fit some sort of 17 inch diameter rim. If you don't plan on at least autocrossing, which big brakes rarely improve performance with, then you're mostly spending for looks as the tyre compound will serve as a more important means of improving stopping performance at about most legal street speeds.
You mention the 'overkill' regarding the Baer system, 14" rotors, ect and the rotational weight issue, but can't that be said with the other systems as well? I have not looked into the Porsche set up, but definately will.
Thanks for the replys.
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Originally Posted by trackbird
I've also installed the Porsche based kits from ProStop Performance. The Porsche pads and parts are a bit more expensive than the Wilwood pads/parts (or that has been my experience) and the kit is a bit more costly (and installation is slightly more complicated). However, if I were doing a Porsche kit, I'd suggest looking into the one built by ProStop Performance.
Thanks again, guys.
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Originally Posted by LPE SS
Wow, those are nice! Steve-d, right? Did a little 'search'...reasonable price too. All I need to do is get rid of the Porsche decal... I wonder if he'll have any Christmas "deals"
Thanks again, guys.
Thanks again, guys.
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Originally Posted by LPE SS
My primary concern is the visual aspects of big brakes behind big wheels (18") - stopping is just a bonus for me .
You mention the 'overkill' regarding the Baer system, 14" rotors, ect and the rotational weight issue, but can't that be said with the other systems as well? I have not looked into the Porsche set up, but definately will.
Thanks for the replys.
You mention the 'overkill' regarding the Baer system, 14" rotors, ect and the rotational weight issue, but can't that be said with the other systems as well? I have not looked into the Porsche set up, but definately will.
Thanks for the replys.
From a performance standpoint, usually stock rotors with upgraded pad compounds are sufficient enough for street use, however one improvement with a solid caliper brake kit would be a stiffer pedal feel. Two major factors that affect braking is overall pad swept area and pad compound.
Once again, being external to the exact brake system itself, the tyre compound is a very important factor at all speeds as well.
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Originally Posted by stang killer
lol, I think that bothers everyone. I think theyre painted on BTW, but I dont get it, people will put corvette calipers on theyre cars all day, but dont want the porsche name on thire car. They are some of the best braking cars out there.
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Originally Posted by CANNIBAL
Why do you suggest that one, Kevin? Parts that come with it and ease of installation?