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Old May 16, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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I just got a set of C5 Z06 calipers for cheap with the caliper bracket..what else do i need to put these on my 00 SS?? is there a adapter bracket i need? thanks
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Old May 16, 2006 | 09:56 PM
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you have to get the trackbracket to attach the calipers
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Old May 16, 2006 | 10:29 PM
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If you are going to still run the f-body rotors, then all you have to do is bolt the new calipers to the f-body brackets. That is what I did on my car and it made a world of difference in the stopping power of my car
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Old May 17, 2006 | 07:23 AM
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If you are going to still run the f-body rotors, then all you have to do is bolt the new calipers to the f-body brackets. That is what I did on my car and it made a world of difference in the stopping power of my car
Which is really funny since the Corvette calipers have less piston area (2 40mm pistons, vs the F-body with 2 44mm pistons) than the F-body version. The Corvette versions of the calipers actually make less clamping force on the rotor. Installing them without upgrading to the larger C5 rotors will decrease your front brakes effectiveness (shifting your brake bias towards the rear). It's a mathematical fact. (1000 PSI x 1 square inch = 1000 lbs of force, 1000 psi x 2 square inches = 2000 lbs of force, less piston area = less clamping force).

Back to the comment you've often heard from several of us around here:

The effectiveness (butt dyno tested) of the mod is proportional to the amount of money lightened from your wallet.

I spent $200, it has to be better.
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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:34 AM
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i think i will just put them on the SS rotor for now, untill i can afford the bracket and rotor from a vette. sucks being in the middle of a $10k project on one car and wanting to do somthing to the other one
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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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also is there any way i can tell the difference between the zo6 caliper and a regular vett one by looking on the outside?
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Old May 17, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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Z06 calipers are powder coated red.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 01:16 AM
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Actually, I had these calipers sitting around for my 69 camaro that I`m building. I was just curious one day and put them on. They DO stop the car better. Bo White, from this board, drove my car and very quickly realized that my car outstops his by quite a bit as soon as his foot touched my brake pedal. So, as far as I am concerned, numbers don`t outprove mine or Bo`s butt dyno.




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Which is really funny since the Corvette calipers have less piston area (2 40mm pistons, vs the F-body with 2 44mm pistons) than the F-body version. The Corvette versions of the calipers actually make less clamping force on the rotor. Installing them without upgrading to the larger C5 rotors will decrease your front brakes effectiveness (shifting your brake bias towards the rear). It's a mathematical fact. (1000 PSI x 1 square inch = 1000 lbs of force, 1000 psi x 2 square inches = 2000 lbs of force, less piston area = less clamping force).

Back to the comment you've often heard from several of us around here:

The effectiveness (butt dyno tested) of the mod is proportional to the amount of money lightened from your wallet.

I spent $200, it has to be better.
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Kore3 makes a really beefy bracket that will adapt an f-body to use C5 rotors, inexpensive and well built. They would work well with the new calipers.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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^^^ they have a website?
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Originally Posted by johnpate01
Kore3 makes a really beefy bracket that will adapt an f-body to use C5 rotors, inexpensive and well built. They would work well with the new calipers.
I think I looked at their brackets, are they the 2 piece versions that I saw? If so, they are very likely dangerous and I'd run away. I forget what their brackets looked like (but I remember the name and my impressions), but I remember that they didn't look safe. Stick to something proven.
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Originally Posted by jebcamaro
Actually, I had these calipers sitting around for my 69 camaro that I`m building. I was just curious one day and put them on. They DO stop the car better. Bo White, from this board, drove my car and very quickly realized that my car outstops his by quite a bit as soon as his foot touched my brake pedal. So, as far as I am concerned, numbers don`t outprove mine or Bo`s butt dyno.
I assume you put new pads on? Further cars are different from each other. I drive a lot of different cars. As a matter of fact a friend's SS had much different pedal feel than my car does with the EXACT same brake pads, fluids, even wheels and tires!!!

The Corvette calipers are the very same design as the F-body calipers. The reason a C5 conversion "works" better (i.e has more torque) is because the Corvette brakes also have 13" rotors which moves the calipers further out giving you more leverage.
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Old May 18, 2006 | 05:44 PM
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UMI makes a C5 conversion bracket which I bought from BYUNSPEED.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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I bought the Kore 3 bracket and modified it. I welded completely around the the spacers and added a support gusset in between them. Looks similar to the UMI bracket but I paid $100.

I know alot will say that you pay for what you get and you wouldn't trust them. That is fine, everyone is entitled to their own thoughts and beliefs. Though I am by no means an expert on brakes or metallurgy, I am confident they will not twist or break. I had the brackets tig welded and then die checked. There are no stress cracks or bad welds whatsoever. I have an almost endless supply of resources working in the construction field.

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Old May 20, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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Their newer design is a 1-piece design, solid bar stock drilled out as a spacer and welded to a 3/8" steel plate. My spacers came completely welded to the plate all the way around. Maybe a revised design??? I feel 100% safe using them. I guess I could gusset them, but I really don't feel the need to. Im happy with them.
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Old May 20, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by johnpate01
Their newer design is a 1-piece design, solid bar stock drilled out as a spacer and welded to a 3/8" steel plate. My spacers came completely welded to the plate all the way around. Maybe a revised design??? I feel 100% safe using them. I guess I could gusset them, but I really don't feel the need to. Im happy with them.
When did you order yours? I ordered mine on May 12th i believe. The day after I got them I took them to work and welded them. The only reason I put gussets was the added security.

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Jebcamaro's car puts ya through the windshield compared to my car . I worked at Midas as a ASE Under Car Specialist for many years and Ive drove many cars too. Its just that I made a comment to him after we swapped cars after eatin dinner and I was impressed
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I used the exact same brake pads. All I swapped was the calipers. I know the corvette calipers have smaller pistons, but the corvette calipers are pressure cast and have more heatsink that helps stiffen the caliper. I can`t explain why the car stops better, but it just freaking stops. The car with the f-body calipers had spongy brakes and didn`t stop that well. I wasn`t impressed with the LS1 calipers, but now I am with the corvette calipers on the front. Some things are just not able to be explained. Anyone that wants to argue that my car doesn`t stop better, then come on by my house sometime and we can do an experiment. I promise I will prove everyone wrong that doesn`t believe they don`t stop the car better.
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Is there a bracket that doesn't require us to cut on our spindle? I really don't want to do that
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Originally Posted by 01 Red WS6
Is there a bracket that doesn't require us to cut on our spindle? I really don't want to do that
I believe LG Motorsports makes them, no need to cut the spindles, but I couldn’t find it on their web site, so I bought the UMI’s instead.
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