big brake problem! need help!
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big brake problem! need help! So i went to put on my new steelbraided lines today. Got the fronts on w/ some problems and learning experiences. Went to the back and got the caliper off, but the bolt on the clip/inner side was stripping so I said forget it. Too late and tired to go on. Put it all back together.
So now i went to make sure the brakes were fine and they arent. The pedal is falling all the way to the floor. I bled the fronts before I put the tires back on. I bled the back. Everything seemed fine. Still no luck w/ the brakes. I push the pedal and the brakes semi work, but the pedal goes to the floor. I went to re-bleed the front. did the drivers side, nothing. did the passenger side and nothing was coming out. Called a friend, he told me to open the valve, push the pedal, close it and let the pedal back out. I did this till fluid came out. I got all excited thinking I had found that it was a really big air bubble the entire time. So we then bleed that side. Slowly pushing the pedal to the ground while I slowly opened the bleeder. Close it, let the pedal up, then pump it over. Repeated this 6 times. Went to drive the car, same problem. Actually it had gotten worse. As bad as it was before, it had even lost some of the small stiffness that it had.
So now Im at a loss? Do I need to go back and re-bleed all four corners starting from the rear moving to the front? Im kind of hoping that Ill go to the car tomorrow and find a big puddle of brake fluid somewhere so I can know where the problem is, but I dont think that will happen. Anyone have any ideas? Anything else I can do? I need to have this fixed by tomorrow!
So now i went to make sure the brakes were fine and they arent. The pedal is falling all the way to the floor. I bled the fronts before I put the tires back on. I bled the back. Everything seemed fine. Still no luck w/ the brakes. I push the pedal and the brakes semi work, but the pedal goes to the floor. I went to re-bleed the front. did the drivers side, nothing. did the passenger side and nothing was coming out. Called a friend, he told me to open the valve, push the pedal, close it and let the pedal back out. I did this till fluid came out. I got all excited thinking I had found that it was a really big air bubble the entire time. So we then bleed that side. Slowly pushing the pedal to the ground while I slowly opened the bleeder. Close it, let the pedal up, then pump it over. Repeated this 6 times. Went to drive the car, same problem. Actually it had gotten worse. As bad as it was before, it had even lost some of the small stiffness that it had.
So now Im at a loss? Do I need to go back and re-bleed all four corners starting from the rear moving to the front? Im kind of hoping that Ill go to the car tomorrow and find a big puddle of brake fluid somewhere so I can know where the problem is, but I dont think that will happen. Anyone have any ideas? Anything else I can do? I need to have this fixed by tomorrow!
The proper procedure for bleeding brakes is to start at the wheel farthest from the master cylinder. Starting at the rear passenger side, then to the rear drivers side, then to the front passenger side, then to the front drivers side. That is the only way to get all the air out. If you don`t follow that procedure, then your still gonna have air in there.
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I just did that exact way, and Im still have the problem. i guess I have a leak at some place in the lines, but when I look at them and have someone pump the brake, noothing comes out. I dont know where its leaking from if anywhere
That being the case, did you absolutely make sure you got all the air out? Have you introduced air into the master? Did you ever starve the master when bleeding the brakes? If there is no visible brake fluid on the ground, then I`m going to have to think you have air still in the brake system that could possibly be in the master. Master`s run dry very quickly when bleeding brakes.
