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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 11:48 AM
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Well i just bought a Eibach Prokit for my car and now i need shocks and struts before i install on my car. Just wondering what everyone likes to run. I want it to be able to handle really good in the turns and everything and also in case i want to race it to be able to do good... but i don't really race it much at all... I heard QA1 would be good but i have no idea... I also am going to do subframes upper and lower control arms ect...

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1. Define best.

2. You can never go wrong with Koni Sa's.

3. This is my opinion.
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one that will work well and give it a good ride...
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Originally Posted by 1slow98Z28
one that will work well and give it a good ride...
Koni SA's for the kill. However, it will cost you.
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Old Sep 17, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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de carbons ftw!

i say QA1's. ajustable.
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Originally Posted by @nthony
de carbons ftw!

i say QA1's. ajustable.


stock springs, bang for buck - Bilstein HDs
Any springs - best somewhat sane $$ shocks - Konis
Best - Penske?
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 05:40 AM
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"and now i need shocks and struts "

We have a four shock suspension on an Fbody, no struts to be found.

Koni SA or else revalved Bilsteins , both from stranoparts.com
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 1slow98Z28
Well i just bought a Eibach Prokit for my car and now i need shocks and struts before i install on my car.
Good decision on upgrading from some POS stockers these cars are plagued with.

Originally Posted by 1slow98Z28
Just wondering what everyone likes to run.
So far the advice is pretty good in this thread, but it can turn into a bad decision when it comes to running with lemmings infected by placebo effects. There is definitely junk, however there are also items that are way overkill, and won't be used, except to brag how much money one spent to satisfy what "looks faster." Caveat emptor.

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I want it to be able to handle really good in the turns and everything and also in case i want to race it to be able to do good... but i don't really race it much at all...
Not trying to criticise here, however you really need to set clear goals on what you will do with the car and what you eventually plan to do with the car. Looking for performance street? AX? RR? ORR? drag racing? Need to set clear goals otherwise you'll be throwing lots of money out of the wallet, and possibly throwing dead weight, junk, and/or overkill items at the car. Also, no matter how good of a car you have, none of the stuff can make up for poor performance driver skills.

Originally Posted by 1slow98Z28
I heard QA1 would be good but i have no idea...
Not good, even for some of the applications they could be for. While their shocks are bad, QA1 rod ends are excellent.

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I also am going to do subframes upper and lower control arms ect...
Again, you ought to hold off and assess what you definitely want you vehicle to do, realistically. If you're not drag racing, and running really soft shocks, then why? You won't gain any true benefit from SFC's, other than extended lift points. LCA's, again which ones, because you will either add excessive unsprung weight and/or bind if you choose poly bushings.

To summarise this, take your time and really research what you want, however for starters look at the stickies above. And as always, search is good.
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Originally Posted by jmilz28
Best - Penske?
Spending more money on shocks just because a whole lot of people claim they're "the best" doesn't mean they're economically feasible. FWIW, Koni 2812's are as good as Penske's, and if you want to really spend a whole lot more, try JRZ's, Moton 4-way adj., and/or Ohlins 4-way adj. as well. With all that I just stated, those shocks are not leaps and bounds better for many motorsport sanctions and certainly unnecessary for the street than...

A good single action/single adjustible damper (e.g. Koni SA) or a shock that has decent valving as well (e.g. a properly revlaved Bilstein).

To further this as well, having too soft a spring, then overdampening is not good either.
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well my plans witht he car is to do the full suspension upgrade and then do heads and cam... this isn't my daily driver but i like to take it out on the streets and drive it... i want an all around performing car... one that will be able to handel well and also hook up when i get on the car... its not going to be an auto x car and its not going to be a drag car... its a street car that i want to do well when i take corners and put the power to the pavement
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Originally Posted by 1slow98Z28
well my plans witht he car is to do the full suspension upgrade and then do heads and cam... this isn't my daily driver but i like to take it out on the streets and drive it... i want an all around performing car... one that will be able to handel well and also hook up when i get on the car... its not going to be an auto x car and its not going to be a drag car... its a street car that i want to do well when i take corners and put the power to the pavement
im in the same boat, i think im going with koni sa with the stock springs
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Originally Posted by Foxxtron
Spending more money on shocks just because a whole lot of people claim they're "the best" doesn't mean they're economically feasible. FWIW, Koni 2812's are as good as Penske's, and if you want to really spend a whole lot more, try JRZ's, Moton 4-way adj., and/or Ohlins 4-way adj. as well. With all that I just stated, those shocks are not leaps and bounds better for many motorsport sanctions and certainly unnecessary for the street than...

A good single action/single adjustible damper (e.g. Koni SA) or a shock that has decent valving as well (e.g. a properly revlaved Bilstein).

To further this as well, having too soft a spring, then overdampening is not good either.

Yep, I agree on all counts. I couldn't remember Moton at all and didn't think of Ohlins for cars. I was hoping to make a point by even suggesting them: that is, virtually no one here will spend 2-3k on shocks.

Even though he asked the question one way: "best", I was trying to clarify for him by qualifying my answers based on spring choice also. IF he listens to right folks, he'll get good results by asking what others run. That's all in who he listens to. With his springs, a "normal" budget, and good judgment for his stated usage - he should get revalved Bilsteins or Koni SAs, like you suggested. I only mentioned the Konis as he asked for the best. I suggested only the Konis because I believe them to be best for most lowering springs without taking a second mortgage.

If folks would use the search function (when it's working) they would learn a lot. One more thing that is less obvious than search results and takes longer to learn is who to listen to.
4 guys (and there are others) that I listen to in this section:
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They don't always agree but base their decisions on good information and experience, and they often give examples also.

Hope this helps someone.
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Old Sep 18, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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It does the search function wasn't working... Yeah the thing with me if im doing sumthin im doing it right the first time if i have to spend alil extra money to have good products i will
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Here's a good sticky to read:

https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/513475-canyon-carving-street-suspension-setup-review-long.html

for what you want, that's about as good as it gets.
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http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/S...ar=&brand=KONI

soo are those the right ones?
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Those are the right ones, however you can get them cheaper from other sponsors on this board.
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Along with way better advice. Better in terms of acutal knowledge about these cars, alignment specs, shock settings (and how and what to expect when you change them), and compatible parts.
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