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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 06:11 AM
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I have bought a set of umi relocation brackets because my car is lowerd with eibach springs. Will the brackets affeckt handling? because handling is more important to me than traction.....

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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Any change you make to your suspension will effect handling in various ways. I don't think you will FEEL any difference with adding relo brackets, as far as handling goes. You'd have to lap your car and record data on a track to see the difference. Just re-check the pinion angle to ensure it's where you want it.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:12 PM
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Dropping the rear of the control arm down in relation to the front will introduce rear roll steer. Like JEB99TA said you may not feel it but it is there.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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Yeah, make sure the LCAs are parallel with relocation brackets. When I had mine in the lowest hole (making the front higher than the rear) my car was scary at speeds over 80.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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Not to hijack, but im gonna do it anyway. So when the control arm is parallel with its self that would be better for handling? What would be the best middle ground for handling and straightline performance when using relocaion brackets?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:25 PM
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Experiment with what is best for you. With the brackets, you can always drop to the lowest hole for traction at the track or the night before an event.
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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See trackbird's explaination in this thread 2nd post. It's pretty basic: https://ls1tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes/756514-suspension-road-race-setup.html

If by "handling and not traction" you mean you want to take turns better and aren't concerned with drag launches, then relocation brackets are not what you want. It will be harder to control your car in turns and you will be slower. relocation brackets are pretty much a drag racing modification. Even I am lowered and I don't need relocation brackets and I don't get any wheel hop.

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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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Do you mean relocation brackets and not LCA's?
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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Do you mean relocation brackets and not LCA's?
Yes I did. Fixing post
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Old Jul 29, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by z28bryan
See trackbird's explaination in this thread 2nd post. It's pretty basic: https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=756514

If by "handling and not traction" you mean you want to take turns better and aren't concerned with drag launches, then relocation brackets are not what you want. It will be harder to control your car in turns and you will be slower. relocation brackets are pretty much a drag racing modification. Even I am lowered and I don't need relocation brackets and I don't get any wheel hop.
I'm not getting that, adding relocation brackets moves the geometry of the control arms back in the direction before the car was lowerd. The geometry has already been changed by lowering, wouldn't the brackets act to "correct" this?
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 03:59 AM
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I am confused to? so my handling is better now because the geometry has been changed?
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I guess the thing is if your LCA's are angled downward, that's when the problem occurs. Are there any relo brackets that make the LCAs parallel to the ground? From what I've read in the past, most of them cause the downward angle front to back. I may be wrong
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 06:10 AM
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hmmm still dont know what to do......
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This isn't that hard. LCA's are a given length. If you run them in a tail-down manner for traction, when the car leans as you turn, the outside arm (left if you are turning right) has to travel in an arc that effectively lengthens the arm, which turns the axle outward. Basically you get toe-out on the left (again if you are turning right), which isn't great for stability. Further, and more basically the instant center of the car is moving rearward too.

If you want to do it, that's fine. I'd recommend no more than making the arms level again. I prefer them tail up like you get when you lower the car and that's how my autocross car is. No, I can't run brackets if I wanted to in my class. But then again, i don't have wheelhop issues either, so who need 'em (in my case, there are cases for them and I do sell them).

I only really will sell weld-ins because they allow you to go back to a stock position easily if you find that's best. And you can drop 'em down @ the drag strip for traction.
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
This isn't that hard. LCA's are a given length. If you run them in a tail-down manner for traction, when the car leans as you turn, the outside arm (left if you are turning right) has to travel in an arc that effectively lengthens the arm, which turns the axle outward. Basically you get toe-out on the left (again if you are turning right), which isn't great for stability. Further, and more basically the instant center of the car is moving rearward too.
Ah ok. That explains why the car is tail happy when the LCAs are at that angle
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Old Aug 1, 2007 | 05:34 PM
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ok thanx.. handling is more important to me so i will drive without them.....
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why not just put them back in the stock location when ur driving around and drop them down when u go to the track thats what i do . .
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Old Aug 2, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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i might do that
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