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Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:00 PM
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I've had beef with Strano before. If I had a question, he'll throw act like a **** and be a smart ***. I am not the only one who feels this way. There are others that have been subjected to his cocky attitude. So KoolAid, this is due to previous encounters with Strano. Bonus points to you though, coming up with that clever quote.
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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It's not Sam's fault that you guys ran out of tampons
Old Nov 3, 2007 | 11:31 PM
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In fact, Lingenfelter did have the best price on Koni's:

When sold individually, yes. All together its $747, stranoparts has them for $740
yeah, im just splitting hairs...
Old Nov 4, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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No, the 740 is for the 4/3 setup. With (2) 8241-1139SPT's and (2) 30-1265SPT's. The 4/4, which is sold by Lingenfelter is sold for around 840 on Strano's site.

I do have Strano Springs though. Nothing wrong with his products, I plan on purchasing the Sway bars also. Jus' his attitude towards members, I dislike. I've talked with Patrick G, and Predator Z about a Heads/Cam setup and were really professional. I did not know too much about a good particular setup for me and they drove me into the right direction in a friendly manner. I seeked Strano's advice on a Suspension setup and he totally belittled me. I asked him for a good Suspension setup and his attitude in the message was uncalled for. Then, I started to see this vibe not just happening to me but to a number of people.

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for all those that want to talk **** about what got said about strano, it goes deeper than this one thread. he is the man when it comes to suspension but its just the way he comes off on the forum alot of the time. ive spoke to him on the phone before and he didnt seem that way at all.
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Thought the price was locked up on Koni's and now one could sell them cheaper??
Old Nov 5, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Yeah, I'm sure he is nicer on the phone than on the threads though. Makes sense. He knows his suspension too. Still doesn't dismiss the initial reaction to his demeanor.

Ws6Gluemaker: I thought that also. I spoke with a lady from Strano and asked if they might be cheaper during the holiday season so I could save a few bucks and she said, "No, because Koni's set their own prices." I was about to order them but searched on google for any place that might sell them cheaper. Some places sold them for around the same price, some cheaper, some more expensive. I bought the 30-1265 SPT's off this one site for 221 shipped.

Jus' do some searching!

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Old Nov 5, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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If you do a wide search you'll find my price on Koni's are very much inline with most of the world. Koni "strongly recommends" selling for 30% off retail with I do because I can't afford to **** them off, and after all I work to pay my bills. I offer a wealth of information for that price which is not something you can get from anyone. BTW, that pricing is old pricing, what I sold for two years ago before Koni's last pricing change (look it up). Makes you wonder why they don't know it. Could it be they don't move many of these shocks? Maybe they are just obvious to details. Who knows.

Hey, this guy wanted cheap. Fine, he got what he paid for. It's not my job to support someone else's product. You can think I'm an ***, and I can be just as much as anyone else. It's just doubly irritating when folks pick your brain, gather information, then run to the "Wal-mart" pricing, and then when they have an issue want answers.

And Lingenfelter isn't even a sponsor here.... I'm sure they've helped greatly in your decision.

Grow up boys and girls, we don't live in a fairy tale. All you need to do is consider how you'd feel at your job if everything were about price. We complain about jobs going overseas.... That's all about money and the cheapest price. Are you getting better product? No.

Price is one thing. Service and information is quite another, and that's a lot more difficult to provide.
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I don't know. I've seen a lot of threads in the past where people get upset because they felt offended by Sam and I never saw anything that anyone should have taken personally. I think some of you are just too sensetive and need to relax

BTW..... what's the deal with your shocks? You should have the top of the spring perch facing the direction where your shock shaft is located. Or is the shaft in the opposite direction for some reason? Did you call Lingenfelter?
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Yeah, they are getting replaced. Sucks though because it has gotten drastically cold this past week!

Sam, I understand about competitive pricing. I jus' decided to shop around, what's wrong with that? If I was shopping for a SLP Lid and know that SLPOnline sells them for 129.99, what's wrong with purchasing them from ThunderRacing.com when they sell their's for 99.99? (I am jus' picking random prices and do not know the actual prices from these vendors on SLP lids.)
Old Nov 5, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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How much setup does an SLP lid take? Not quite the same thing, and I think you know that, or you probably wouldn't have been on here looking for help.
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Originally Posted by 02TransAm/Batmobile
Yeah, they are getting replaced. Sucks though because it has gotten drastically cold this past week!

Sam, I understand about competitive pricing. I jus' decided to shop around, what's wrong with that? If I was shopping for a SLP Lid and know that SLPOnline sells them for 129.99, what's wrong with purchasing them from ThunderRacing.com when they sell their's for 99.99? (I am jus' picking random prices and do not know the actual prices from these vendors on SLP lids.)
I installed my shocks and springs over the course of like 3 weeks due to stuck bolts last January/February at night in the pitch dark in freezing cold. All you need is a forehead mounted led light and some gloves and you're good to go
Old Nov 5, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam Strano
How much setup does an SLP lid take? Not quite the same thing, and I think you know that, or you probably wouldn't have been on here looking for help.
??? Ok?

Fine, we'll take, . . . Bilstein Shocks as an example than.

If Bilstein Shocks are sold for 399.99 on Speed Inc, what's wrong with purchasing them for 359.99 on ThunderRacing.com? (Again, these are not acutal prices, jus' quick qoutes.)
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I can understand about looking for the cheapest price. For example. I have been trying to figure out which AFR head to buy for two weeks. I have talked to my machine shop and they have spent a lot of time with me getting prices, giving me good ideas. So I figure out which heads I'm going to get but find out I can get them online for cheaper. What do I do? I pay more at the machine shop because they helped me and have helped me in the past. There's nothing worse than helping someone then they run out and buy something from someone else. I like to save money, but at the same time the people who you call and ask a question here and there, they have bills to pay. I know if I have any problems with the heads they will take care of me.

In Sam's defense. I talked to him on the phone and he was nothing but outstanding to talk to. I called him about a 3rd gen! I have bought a set of springs from him and thats it so far. I plan on buying my Koni's from him in the future. I think I talked to him for almost twenty minutes. Lets say he gets three phone calls a day at that time, thats an hour. Who likes to work for free for an hour? I don't.

When I worked a mechanic before I got my current job. I learned if you want people to keep coming back to you for business you take that time and talk to them. Someday's I didn't get anything done because I spent extra times with customers. But they appreciated it and they came back.

Will I pay more? Yeah. But I also know when I'm my garage scratching my head because I know jack **** about suspensions I can make a phone call and get some damn good advice from a guy that knows a little sumpin about making a car turn.

It just depends on what you want. Bottom dollar price or a product with good support.

Look at it this way. You ever have a girl that you know who would talk to you about her problems, cry on your shoulder then run out and #@#$ someone else? It's kinda like that....but doesn't leave you with blue *****. LOL.

I'm out.

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I totally agree. I would have also. I've spent some time talking with some of the sponsors on here also and some non-sponsors. Tony at MPH, Mike and Straightline, the guys at UMI, Patrick G, Predator Z have been great and superb people to deal with and when I purchase items. I go there first!

Sam Strano would have recieved a payment for some Koni's had he not act the way he does. If a mechanic knew his **** about LS1's but belittled you, treated you with disrespect and had a cocky attitude would you still allow him to do your Head/Cam swap? No, I'd walk out and seek the next mechanic. Which I did.
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Originally Posted by 02TransAm/Batmobile
If a mechanic knew his **** about LS1's but belittled you, treated you with disrespect and had a cocky attitude would you still allow him to do your Head/Cam swap? No, I'd walk out and seek the next mechanic. Which I did.
I agree completely also. There's a guy that posted in a suspension thread last night that seemed to know his stuff but was a complete ****. Regardless of how much he knows I'd tell him to shove it. I understand where you are coming from.
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In any case that sucks about the shocks being built wrong. So the spring perch was facing upside down? What is that a Lingenfelter defect or a Koni defect?

It's also kinda funny if you think of it. That's like an extremely odd thing to find when you open up the koni box.
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Originally Posted by 02TransAm/Batmobile
??? Ok?

Fine, we'll take, . . . Bilstein Shocks as an example than.

If Bilstein Shocks are sold for 399.99 on Speed Inc, what's wrong with purchasing them for 359.99 on ThunderRacing.com? (Again, these are not acutal prices, jus' quick qoutes.)
You just don't want to get it, do you? Are Bilstein's adjustable? Do they have a range of rebound change that goes up a bit more than 100% of full soft through the range? What setup do they take? None.

But, then again, there are different Bilstein's, they aren't all the "same", and knowing that, and how the differ is important... unless of course you are the type to put a cam in the car not caring what kind of cam, or what specs the cam has, because you just want a "CAM".

Who can give you the best service? WHO IS ON THIS FORUM ALL THE TIME AND GIVES CUSTOMERS ALL THE INFORMATION THEY CAN ABSORB???? What kind of shipping costs are involved? Delivery Time? But hey, I get it.... you are all about the cheap. That's fine. Just admit it instead of busting my nuts over my pricing. Fair enough?
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