Wheels done!!!
98% sure they wont do the outside, thats why there is so much interest in this thread.. I know I personally have never seen it done like this before and I know a lot of guys have used weldcraft in the past on their WS6 or 10 spoke SS wheels but only adding 2 inches to the inner wheel..
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spoke to James at weldcraft. sent him pictures of everything Joe did. James said that it does not seem possible. He talked to me about many different issues that could potentially arise. I will stay on top of this. I will let everyone here know as soon as I figure things out. I also called the shop that Joe works at and left a message for him.
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I would think as long as the cut was precise that there wouldn't be any issues. If someone would step up and start doing this they'd have more business than they'd know what to do with.
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Spoke to Joe this morning. Bad news. He did have the wheels widened, but by widening an all aluminum rim front the front, it makes ruins the safety bead. Is means he could never have a tire mounted on the rim. He tried multiple wheel shops and no one could mount a tire. James at weld craft said that if the photos were real and that someone did accomplish a front widening then mounting a tire would be near impossible. He must know something about widening rims!
Anyone find someone who can create a functional deep dish ws6 rim please let me know.
Thanks
Anyone find someone who can create a functional deep dish ws6 rim please let me know.
Thanks
It's not the cheapest route to have custom wheels made, but if you can get a few people and talk to Bill about a group purchase you might be on to something. I was talking to him about the 18" 10-spokes I mentioned a few posts up but never followed through.
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From: Sadorus, IL
I have been following this thread for a while. It's good to see we finally got an answer. If you were wondering what a safety bead was (like me) attached is a good picture I found illustrating it.
Still seems like a good welder could recreate the safety bead with a couple passes with a welder. Maybe I don't fully understand the function and am oversimplifying it.
Sounds like Joe is living the good life.
Still seems like a good welder could recreate the safety bead with a couple passes with a welder. Maybe I don't fully understand the function and am oversimplifying it.
Sounds like Joe is living the good life.
I don't know about the safety bead, but if it's a matter of not mounting tires because it simply isn't possible (rather than a safety precaution due to a lack of a safety bead), then it's the drop center. The drop center is labeled as "Well" in the thumbnail above my post. I've worked for a couple of major tire shops, so I know what I'm talking about. This drop center allows the bead to have slack in it while you mount the tire so that it can stretch around the rim flange. The lower profile the tires, the more important the drop center becomes, and the more difficult mounting is in general.
The problem with these wheels is likely that the drop center is too far from the outer rim flange to mount a tire. Generally the drop center will be a couple of inches from the rim flange at most. Some wheels are "reverse mount," where the drop center is closest to the inner rim flange and the wheels are placed face down on the tire machine for mounting/unmounting. I would think that this type of wheel, though much less common, could be widened from the outside for extra deep dish without issue. Alternately, if the wheels were already deep dish and the drop center was outboard of the spokes, and if the wheels were widened AT the drop center (effectively creating a wider drop center valley) that should work too. Unfortunately for the OP and his amazing work (the JB Weld hero), these are more traditional wheels with the drop center towards the outer edge.
The problem with these wheels is likely that the drop center is too far from the outer rim flange to mount a tire. Generally the drop center will be a couple of inches from the rim flange at most. Some wheels are "reverse mount," where the drop center is closest to the inner rim flange and the wheels are placed face down on the tire machine for mounting/unmounting. I would think that this type of wheel, though much less common, could be widened from the outside for extra deep dish without issue. Alternately, if the wheels were already deep dish and the drop center was outboard of the spokes, and if the wheels were widened AT the drop center (effectively creating a wider drop center valley) that should work too. Unfortunately for the OP and his amazing work (the JB Weld hero), these are more traditional wheels with the drop center towards the outer edge.
to add on to what you are saying. (i too mounted tires for many years) The Deep dish wheels are a reverse style wheel when made by an aftermarket manufacture , that is how they are able to get the deep dish lip.
I know this is a ford wheel but the same applies
I know this is a ford wheel but the same applies
