Letter to the Prez...

Old Sep 7, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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In case you aren't familiar with how our government is SUPPOSED to
work:

The chain of responsibility for the protection of the citizens in
New Orleans is:



1. The Mayor

2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security (a political
appointee of

the Governor who reports to the Governor)

3. The Governor

4. The Head of Homeland Security

5. The President



What did each do?



1. The mayor, with 5 days advance, waited until 2 days before he
announced

a mandatory evacuation (at the behest of the President). The he
failed to

provide transportation for those without transport even though he
had

hundreds of buses at his disposal.



2. The New Orleans director of Homeland Security failed to have any
plan

for a contingency that has been talked about for 50 years. Then he
blames

the Feds for not doing what he should have done. (So much for
political

appointees)



3. The Governor, despite a declaration of disaster by the President
2 DAYS

BEFORE the storm hit, failed to take advantage of the offer of
Federal

troops and aid. Until 2 DAYS AFTER the storm hit.



4. The Director of Homeland Security positioned assets in the area
to be

ready when the Governor called for them



5. The President urged a mandatory evacuation, and even declared a

disaster State of Emergency, freeing up millions of dollars of
federal

assistance, should the Governor decide to use it.



Oh and by the way, the levees that broke were the responsibility of
the

local landowners and the local levee board to maintain, NOT THE
FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT.



The disaster in New Orleans is what you get after decades of corrupt

(democrat) government going all the way back to Huey Long.



Funds for disaster protection and relief have been flowing into this
city

for decades, and where has it gone, but into the pockets of the
politicos

and their friends.



Decades of socialist government in New Orleans has sapped all self

reliance from the community, and made them dependent upon government
for

every little thing.



Political correctness and a lack of will to fight crime have created
the

single most corrupt police force in the country, and has permitted
gang

violence to flourish.



The sad thing is that there are many poor folks who have suffered
and died

needlessly because those that they voted into office failed them.



For those who missed item 5 (where the President's level of
accountability

is discussed), it is made more clear in a New Orleans Times-Picayune

article dated August 28:



NEW ORLEANS (AP) - In the face of a catastrophic Hurricane Katrina,
a

mandatory evacuation was ordered Sunday for New Orleans by Mayor Ray

Nagin.



Acknowledging that large numbers of people, many of them stranded

tourists, would be unable to leave, the city set up 10 places of
last

resort for people to go, including the Superdome.



The mayor called the order unprecedented and said anyone who could
leave

the city should. He exempted hotels from the evacuation order
because

airlines had already cancelled all flights.



Gov. Kathleen Blanco, standing beside the mayor at a news
conference, said

President Bush called and personally appealed for a mandatory
evacuation

for the low-lying city, which is prone to flooding. (emphasis mine)



The ball was placed in Mayor Nagin's court to carry out the
evacuation

order. With a 5-day heads-up, he had the authority to use any and
all

services to evacuate all residents from the city, as documented in a
city

emergency preparedness plan. By waiting until the last minute, and
failing

to make full use of resources available within city limits, Nagin
and his

administration f**ked up.



Mayor Nagin and his emergency sidekick Terry Ebbert have displayed
lethal,

mind boggling incompetence before, during and after Katrina.



As for Mayor Nagin, he and his profile in pathetic leadership police
chief

should resign as well. That city's government is incompetent from
one end

to the other. The people of New Orleans deserve better than this
crowd of

clowns is capable of giving them.



If you're keeping track, these ***** let 569 buses that could have
carried

33,350 people out of New Orleans-in one trip-get ruined in the
floods.

Whatever plan these guys had, it was a dud. Or it probably would
have been

if they'd bothered to follow it.



As for all the race-baiting rhetoric and Bush-bashing coming from

prominent blacks on the left, don't expect Ray Nagin to be called
out on

the carpet for falling short. You want to know why? Here's why:



It's more convenient to blame a white president for what went wrong
than

to hold a black mayor and his administration accountable for gross

negligence and failing to fully carry out an established emergency

preparedness plan.



To hold Nagin and his administration accountable for dropping the
ball

amounts to letting loose the shouts and cries of "Racism!". It's
sad, it's

wrong, but it's standard operating procedure for the media and
left-wing

black leadership.



Mark my words: you will not hear a word of criticism from Jesse
Jackson

Sr., Randall Robinson, the Congressional Black Caucus, the NAACP, or
Kanye

West being directed toward Clarence Ray Nagin Jr.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Reckless
That is so true, it almost brings a tear to my eye...
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 10:22 AM
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's99SS
I think you need to educate yourself on what the responsibilities are of the federal government in any kind of natural disaster and what each state is required to do before the federal government can even step in with FEMA, National Gaurd, etc...this letter is just proof of more ignorance of someone who doesn't know their *** from a hole in the ground!

Amazing what people might learn if they open their ears and shut their f'n mouth and do a little research on who's responsible for what and how long it takes for FEMA or other Federal agencies to respond to such major catastrophies...FEMA states it can take anywhere from 72-96 hours to be able to respond because of state policies, planning, logistics, etc. so everyone needs to be prepared to survive (on their own) until help can arrive. If any blame is to go around look a the local and state government of LA and what actions they took before the storm...2000 school buses left in the parking lot to drown instead of helping evacuate the NO people!! And thats Bush's fault right? WTF ever...

I'm done with all this political BULLSHIT from all these f'n bleeding heart Liberal ********...

Could not have said it better. I am tired of all these ignorant people pointing the fingers b/c they saw someone else pointing the finger. That mayor is an assclown and should be relieved of duty.

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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Come on man....he's an Aggie
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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Just because people don't agree with you doesn't make them uneducated.

There are a lot of contradictory "facts" floating around, and I don't know of a good way to tell what's real and what's not- since a lot of it is published in major national newspapers who have links to their sources (ie press releases, official federal sites, etc).

I have read in several places that the Louisiana gvt (sorry, not sure if it was NO mayor or LA gov- point is, it was NOT federal gvt) turned in all the paperwork they needed to declare a state of emergency two days before the hurricane hit. It wasn't officially declared until days later. If you can find something to contradict this (I'm sure you can), post a link to someplace that's reputable, instead of jumping on my *** and calling me uneducated. I've spent hours reading up on this, but if I have bad sources I wanna know.

It seems the problem with slow response is the massive amount of bureaucracy that states have to go to when appealing for federal aid.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jmh21
I have read in several places that the Louisiana gvt (sorry, not sure if it was NO mayor or LA gov- point is, it was NOT federal gvt) turned in all the paperwork they needed to declare a state of emergency two days before the hurricane hit.
I dont even have to post the link.... I REMEMBER Bush proclaiming the region a disaster area days BEFORE the hurricane hit! The ball was dropped on all ends of the spectrum.....From Bush locating FEMA under the dept of homeland security, to the mayor failing to have and execute a full evacuation plan......
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by jmh21
Just because people don't agree with you doesn't make them uneducated.

There are a lot of contradictory "facts" floating around, and I don't know of a good way to tell what's real and what's not- since a lot of it is published in major national newspapers who have links to their sources (ie press releases, official federal sites, etc).

I have read in several places that the Louisiana gvt (sorry, not sure if it was NO mayor or LA gov- point is, it was NOT federal gvt) turned in all the paperwork they needed to declare a state of emergency two days before the hurricane hit. It wasn't officially declared until days later. If you can find something to contradict this (I'm sure you can), post a link to someplace that's reputable, instead of jumping on my *** and calling me uneducated. I've spent hours reading up on this, but if I have bad sources I wanna know.

It seems the problem with slow response is the massive amount of bureaucracy that states have to go to when appealing for federal aid.
The "fact" that you use language such as "I don't know", "sorry, not sure..." and "if" all over the place, you might want to go look up the definition of "uneducated". It is not a derogatory statement. Take the time and read ALL of the information available, not simply right-wing opinion pieces, and "educate" yourself on all of the facts and circumstances surrounding this horrible disaster.

Here is another opinion for you to read:

http://www.rense.com/general67/notabout.htm
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*shrug* like I said, I know what I've read, and I don't remember bush proclaiming that, but surely it would be recorded somewhere?

NO didn't exactly think they'd have the trouble they have though, which is why the evacuation order wasn't taken too seriously. The main two reasons:
1. The hurricane did not directly hit NO. There wasn't serious flooding until later when the levees broke.
2. The general attitude was, "Well, I've never SEEN the water get that high!" If there is no precedent, people are not going to take the warning as seriously. I guarantee, if another hurricane is headed anywhere near NO in the future, and an evacuation order is issued, many more people will listen.
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Originally Posted by Reckless
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Very nice to see that posted up.


btw Todd, thanks for those links, I'll be sportin a few t-shirts at UNT....
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Brandon

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Very nice to see that posted up.


btw Todd, thanks for those links, I'll be sportin a few t-shirts at UNT....

x3
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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Yeah they have some cool shirts on those sites
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 04:01 PM
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Lets face it the mayor and the democrat gov. of La fell apart. There was billions of Federal monies over the last few years that they did not use to fix the levies, there Times Picayune reported three years ago the city was a tradegy waiting to happen- that is was not a matter of IF but WHEN. The City and State knew of this possibility and did absolutely NOTHING to prepare for it. The first line of defense in these cases are the local and state governments. The Fed only comes in when asked. The Gov turned down the Feds help and then cried foul the very next day when she finally realized they needed help in New Orleans. The local govt FAILED in every category, in communication, law enforcement, planning, in every single way they failed.

How is this Bushs fault? Because the Fed was sitting on the door step of louisianna waiting to run in after the cane' hit? They got there as soon as they could when they were asked.

Originally Posted by DJ's99SS
I'm done with all this political BULLSHIT from all these f'n bleeding heart Liberal ********...

Yep that pretty much sums up my thoughts on the original poster.
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 04:37 PM
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OMFG! John Cambell posted! Who the hell drug him outta the grave!
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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I'm around, i just dont post so much anymore.
But when someone comes along with such blatant ignorance of how the world operates. You just HAVE to say something.

Good to see you too man..
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Old Sep 7, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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what a return post! no wonder you're a legend around here.

those timeslips help too
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Right on Raughammer! Good to see you posting again, brother!

We can always count on you to state the truth!
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Wouldn't ya know it took something regarding politics, and not a car related topic to get JC to post, lol. Good to see you found your way back over here man.

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Originally Posted by Reckless
OMFG! John Cambell posted! Who the hell drug him outta the grave!
He just needed a little push from a friend...

Had a great ride on the bikes tonite JC!! Cold beer, good seafood and some padres to BS with...dont' get much better!!
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