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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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my camaro is running like **** last night it dropped all 4 cylinders on the drivers side. i can barely drive it but when the computer goes into limp mode it is fine?? i changed out the o2 sensor and that made no difference what is the matter it used to just do it in the morning but now it does it at all speeds and all gears. i have to go to freeport tonight should i be able to get there in limp mode and not hurt anything??? help im a carb guy not a f/i guy.
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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Thats wierd Billy. First thing I'd check is all the easy stuff, like make sure all connections are sound, (coil pack harnesses as well as the injector harness). May want to check the plugs as well, but I doubt that'd be the problem.

Wierd problem for sure, hope you get it sorted out!

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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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my camaro is running like **** last night it dropped all 4 cylinders on the drivers side. i can barely drive it but when the computer goes into limp mode it is fine?? i changed out the o2 sensor and that made no difference what is the matter it used to just do it in the morning but now it does it at all speeds and all gears. i have to go to freeport tonight should i be able to get there in limp mode and not hurt anything??? help im a carb guy not a f/i guy.
GO carb and fix the problem alltogether. Never heard of that happenning though.
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 02:49 PM
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i know it is weird bhut i dont think it e any of the connectors because when it goes into limp mode all is fine? i dont know what is going on idk i might just drop it off at hpe and let them mess with it cause i am stumped. i dont really want to go carb since it is my dd
edit: changed plugs as well
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 05:17 PM
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Maybe try switching out the coil packs? Is it possible the fuel delivery to that side may be clogged?
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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Your Check Engine light must be on, right? I'd pull codes first and try to get clues that way.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:36 PM
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ok going up to port aurther it was fine SES light went off and it felt like it should. got all the way there with no problems (except the rear end sprayed gear lube all over the back of my car) butt other than that she ran great! coming back it ran a little rough but it was cold so and then when i got stuck in traffic (BIG wreak on I-10 moved like 5 feet in 1 and 1/2 hours) but then it started running funny? backfiring spitting SES light flashing all of that stuff and then i noticed i had half a tank left. so today i filled back up and turned off the SES light and now its running fine any ideas? the codes were 02 sensor dirvers side unusualy high reading
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:43 PM
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Sounds like you might of just had some bad gas in the tank?
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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yeah but it has been happening for the last three tanks
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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Am I the only one that believes by the sound of things it has been severely abused? At first I though you just had an odd issue but now that you mention gear lube flying everywhere, I think it may have been a little neglected?
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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OR a couple bolts just not being tightened on the cover.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Trendkiller Z
Am I the only one that believes by the sound of things it has been severely abused? At first I though you just had an odd issue but now that you mention gear lube flying everywhere, I think it may have been a little neglected?
How about that the previous owner of the rear end did not supply the vent cap???? thanks for you useless information and now back to the real question at hand rather than questioning my authority on whether i abuse my cars or not

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LS198Z28
How about that the previous owner of the rear end did not supply the vent cap???? thanks for you useless information and now back to the real question at hand rather than questioning my athority on whether i abuse my cars or not
Wow, angry are we? Did the previous owner of the engine supply all the spark plugs?
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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The previous-previous owner sprayed the **** out of the car.

The previous and current owner put the new motor in it, runs great.

I like driving it

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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Trendkiller Z
Wow, angry are we? Did the previous owner of the engine supply all the spark plugs?
im not really angry i just hate it when people that dont really know me judge me. As for the spark plugs id have to ask OptimusWS6 on that one but i think he did
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Trendkiller Z
Wow, angry are we? Did the previous owner of the engine supply all the spark plugs?
Sweet name
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by LS198Z28
im not really angry i just hate it when people that dont really know me judge me. As for the spark plugs id have to ask OptimusWS6 on that one but i think he did
It's cool man, don't get all wound up over me lol. I was kidding on the park plugs. It would never run right if it didn't have all the park plugs in lol. did you check the coil packs though like I suggested above? What about the fuel delivery on that side?
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Pewter02TA
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Thanks!
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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Billy, just an idea.

Most people don't know this, but the LS1 computer will pull timing out when the knock sensors sense knock or detonation. Thats a good thing. However, it will not add the timing back in until it senses that the fuel level has been raised. A friend's LS1 was runing slower than we expected one night and slowing down. He added a couple gallons of fuel, and the very next run picked up about 2-3 mph.

The engineers did this to compensate for bad gas. Their thinking is "Well it is detonating because of bad gas or lack of octane. That problem will not be solved until fresh gas has been added". This is the reason some cars seem to run stronger right after you fill up, and another reason that some cars with exhaust rattle always run like crap(the engine senses the rattle as a knock, thus pulling timing.)

I don't know if it ties into your problem, but you said it runs better after you put fresh gas in it. Next time is starts to happen, drive to the nearest gas station and top the tank off, see if there is an immediate change or not. Another thing, where do you buy your gas from? If you get your gas from the same station every time, there may be a problem with their gas. Believe it or not, there ARE some stations out that dilute their gas, or may even fill the tanks with the incorrect grade of gasoline in hopes of boosting profits. You may want to try changing stations. FWIW I've always had good luck with Shell gasoline.

Good luck and let us know!
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Stang Man
Billy, just an idea.

Most people don't know this, but the LS1 computer will pull timing out when the knock sensors sense knock or detonation. Thats a good thing. However, it will not add the timing back in until it senses that the fuel level has been raised. A friend's LS1 was runing slower than we expected one night and slowing down. He added a couple gallons of fuel, and the very next run picked up about 2-3 mph.

The engineers did this to compensate for bad gas. Their thinking is "Well it is detonating because of bad gas or lack of octane. That problem will not be solved until fresh gas has been added". This is the reason some cars seem to run stronger right after you fill up, and another reason that some cars with exhaust rattle always run like crap(the engine senses the rattle as a knock, thus pulling timing.)

I don't know if it ties into your problem, but you said it runs better after you put fresh gas in it. Next time is starts to happen, drive to the nearest gas station and top the tank off, see if there is an immediate change or not. Another thing, where do you buy your gas from? If you get your gas from the same station every time, there may be a problem with their gas. Believe it or not, there ARE some stations out that dilute their gas, or may even fill the tanks with the incorrect grade of gasoline in hopes of boosting profits. You may want to try changing stations. FWIW I've always had good luck with Shell gasoline.

Good luck and let us know!
I always wondered why the hell my car felt stronger after I filled up. I was always like "But I just added weight....WTF??!!" Good info
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