Yep, YOU got the jist of it. The point of all this controversy is not even centered around drunken driving anyways. The spokes person for the TABC even said so. It was quite funny. "Legally intoxicated people have been known to stumble through busy streets, and jump off the roofs of apartment complexes. Its a bunch of smoke and mirrors to "shoot fish in a barrel", so to speak.

Brandon

 

Not positive on this one but I think the federal gov with held aid from states who didnt make .08 the legal limit for being drunk. So all states should have the same now?

 

I wonder how many traffic deaths we had that were blamed solely on speeding or driver error? Or how many were due to poor time management (running late for school/work).

I'm betting probably WAY more than 1284 in every case but you don't see TABC officials sitting in drivers training classes or making extra loud alarm clocks mandatory.

 

I believe you're right, lrk322. And I believe the liscense plate idea is a good one, and since most accidents happen within a mile from home, I say warn the neighborhoods and neighbors. Also, the statistic given by MADD is stupid cause we are bigger than most states, no some our roads may not be travelled as often, but many drunk drivers have one car accidents too.

I REALLY hate the billboards that say "Failed the sobriety test? You could have been drunk or sober" with a number to call an attorney- paying $1000s to get out of your DWI is bullshit.

 

Yep been there done that went to Tyler Junior college, lived off the loop towards the lake and whitehouse. Have to be very careful they will watch you from the hill and bust your ***, we never went over there without being 21 and no minors in the car because of this. Know many people that were repeat offenders and if you are the fine doubles every time, one guy had like 3K worth of MIP fines.

J

 

Hmm the law is pretty much that, you loose your lic for a year, and it is automatic if your underage, fines they impose are not that cheap, mostly start around 500 and go up to thousands. Community service is 80+hrs, and your probation officer depending on if they make you take the alcohol evaluation test, will make you do AA.

If I am correct you also with the suspension of your lic, they charge you something like 1K a year to be able to drive after that, and it doubles for every DWI you get. You also have to get a occupational lic to drive designated hours.

J

 

What i dont understand is how a bar is public? Its owned by the bar, its run by the bar the bar has the right to kick anyone out, and refuse service to anyone, but somehow its public? Or what does public intoxication mean? So stupid. I'd sue the TABC for illegal search if i was a bar owner. lol.

 

thats what they did back when louisiana was the only state left w/a drinking age of 18. I think it was highway funds, but not 100% positive.


so let me get this straight, if I'm in a bar, and I'm 21, sitting at the bar, and I get so loaded that I can barely walk, but dont cause a rucus and dont even try to walk, then even if I call a friend and stumble out to his car I can still get a ticket? when are they going to start ticketing ppl at their homes for public intoxication??? we are getting way to liberal

 

I did a research paper on alcohol my freshman year in college. Most of the statistics that have alcohol related accidents do not tell the entire story. There does not have to be anybody legally drunk for it to be considered an alcohol related accident. A passenger in a car can be drinking and someone runs a redlight hitting the car the person drinking(not yet drunk or driving) is in and it is still an alcohol related accident according to the research I did (got an A on the paper). I had to have respectable resources and quote only facts, so I'm pretty sure my information was fairly accurate. There were also instances where freak accidents occured but there was alcohol at the scene so it is considered alcohol related. This is my opinion and I have lost more friends in non-alcohol related accidents than alcohol related accidents. In high school my best friend and I rolled a car between 90 and 105 mph with no seat belts and walked away pretty much without a scratch (yeah we were legally drunk but he was just pissed since he found out his girl friend for 2 years was cheating on him with one of our other friends that had just got out of the car). If it is you time to go than God will take you. This still doesn't make it right but neither is stereotyping someone driving a car that has exhaust and a cam as a person who is out street racing and disturbing the public.

 

No...you can get arrested sitting at the bar stool drunk. There was a guy arrested at the bar in the hotel he was staying at after 6 beers. He got fired from his job to. This is way out of control and I am all for watching people who the cops know are drop and see them get into the driver seat of a car and then arresting them.

 

Yeah, it may be the law, but people get off of this **** if they have enough money, and thats what irks me. The penalties aren't stiff enough, not even close.

 

its public because when that bar gets a liquor license, it is in the small print that the bar becomes a public establishment, that is how they are able to do that.

 

Last time I checked public intoxication is a crime.

 

thats weird but thank you for explaining it.

 

No, the problem is that we are getting too right wing conservative. Trust me the liberals have nothing to do with this.

 

Sorry don't mean to irk you.

Just get a DWI and tell me the penalties are not stiff enough. I had one back when I was 20, 3 blocks from the house. I had 3 beers, they took me in and wanted a breathalizer from me. Which I knew better considering my parents were attorneys in houston, they always said don't blow. Well considering the amount i had to drink, thought i would be okay. That was when it was .10 legal limit, I blew a .13. I was over cause my dumb *** was in the back of the cop car thinking if I belch it would make it less, WRONG. I would speculate that is why I blew what I did. I would have been lower had I not done that. But now I am a target, when getting pulled over even though this happened 12+ years ago. I have since been harassed for just the hint of alcohol on my breath and have been taken down 2 times and beat both of them. So ya it does take a **** load of money, and you have to do good on the video, which I did both times, was walking straight and everything. It all happened cause i was branded from the first offense. Either way the second one I was pulled over on midnight trail, by a precent sargent at 1:30am the guy in my car got a ticket for littering, cause he was scared the cop would see him get in the car with a open container. Well you cannot buy after 1:30 or go to a bar, the cop searched the car and let us go, 2 hrs later they busted Midnight trail, well I got caught, mind you nothing to drink since 1:30 but still smelled like alcohol, and got arrested. But I had to pay out of my pocket to prove that I was no guilty, and considering I had called the original sargent to court to testify to what happened, they realized they had no case. Then it happened again. I will never blow or do anything they say, cause it is bullshit if you ask me, but if I am intoxicated and shouldn't be driving i will be more than happy to say ya I am guilty and deserve to be punished.

J

 

Yep, they're starting down that road