Mavericks vs Spurs
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National media has even said that what has happened is the Mavs are getting the calls that the Spurs,LAkers,Pistons of the world get. When you reach a certian level you get more calls and yes EVERY home team the calls swing there way. The series is even surprising me as a Mavs fan, if we remove the Spurs monkey from our back we are just that much better. As for the next round if it is the Clippers it will be a decent series that the Mavs should win. If it is Pheonix we better knock them out this year because they really are not as good as before since the badass Stouamire is out, he makes the difference for them. Now if the Spurs are to pull a miracle and win 3 in a row well I believe they will roll to the finals, this series winner I believe will produce your Western Conference representative. As for the East bring on any of those teams, the Pistons are struggling against a bottom seeded Cavs team, the only team with any kind of threat is Miami. Shaq & Wade are a hell of a force but the West can calm them. Also lets not hate the Spurs literally they are the only thing in San Antonio besides that smelly riverwalk, the Guadalupe,and Comal rivers what else is there ? Oh the Alamo. The poor city had a baseball team coming but the MLB fooked them on that, but the one thing I do like about SA is they know winners and that is why the greatest football franchise ever is having spring training there the Dallas Cowboys.
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the game was over when Duncan took that charge late in the 4th...which they called offensive and lead to a technical
potential 6 point swing...late...just when the Spurs started to run away with it
I'd rather see the Spurs win, I think they're better than Dallas, simple as that...i'd rather see the best team win because Detroit is NO joke.
potential 6 point swing...late...just when the Spurs started to run away with it
I'd rather see the Spurs win, I think they're better than Dallas, simple as that...i'd rather see the best team win because Detroit is NO joke.
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A) NO WAY are the Spurs better than Dallas right now. Ginobli looks like crap 70% of the time, and Duncan just now got into MVP shape...and I still think the foot is bothering him. France-boy had his best game in Game 4, but Harris penitrated as easily has he has in the past and during the regular season. Bottom line, the Spurs are not the defensive power they used to be at this point in time. Sorry. Dallas is playing better ball because of Johnson. Period.
B) Last nights game was over when Duncan couldnt shoot the ball at the buzzer over Damp. They didnt have another 5min in them. Calls can go and have gone both ways this series, just as it has in past games/seasons. People that bitch about bad calls are sore losers. If the situation was reversed and the Mavs had potentially lost due to a questionable charge call...I'd say they didnt play enough defense early and didnt put the points up to stay out of that close game situation...not blame the ref's. Shut up. What about when the Mavs when on a 10-0 run late, then sat Dirk and the Spurs when on an 8-0 run in the next minute in a half? Bad officiating? I don't think so. What about when Duncan sat in the second quarter of Game 2 I think and the Spurs didnt have ONE FG in 8 minutes? And that was at home if I'm thinking of the right game. Were those fouls called incorrectly? Who cares...where the **** were the other Spurs during that time period???????? Exactly. They are NOT the 05 Spurs right now, and the Mavs are not the 05 Mavs. Deal with it.
B) Last nights game was over when Duncan couldnt shoot the ball at the buzzer over Damp. They didnt have another 5min in them. Calls can go and have gone both ways this series, just as it has in past games/seasons. People that bitch about bad calls are sore losers. If the situation was reversed and the Mavs had potentially lost due to a questionable charge call...I'd say they didnt play enough defense early and didnt put the points up to stay out of that close game situation...not blame the ref's. Shut up. What about when the Mavs when on a 10-0 run late, then sat Dirk and the Spurs when on an 8-0 run in the next minute in a half? Bad officiating? I don't think so. What about when Duncan sat in the second quarter of Game 2 I think and the Spurs didnt have ONE FG in 8 minutes? And that was at home if I'm thinking of the right game. Were those fouls called incorrectly? Who cares...where the **** were the other Spurs during that time period???????? Exactly. They are NOT the 05 Spurs right now, and the Mavs are not the 05 Mavs. Deal with it.
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What about when the Mavs when on a 10-0 run late, then sat Dirk and the Spurs when on an 8-0 run in the next minute in a half? Bad officiating?
shouldn't have taken out Dirk maybe? I think it just so happened Ginobili hit 2 well defended 3's in a row and Parker had a steal that lead to an easy basket. Has 0 to do with officiating.
The spurs were on a run and there was a phantom call...an IMPORTANT call, period.
Dallas was front-iron away from losing this game...they are NOT any better than the Spurs, in fact I think the spurs are better...oh well, different strokes for different folks.
Ginobili in game 4: 8-11 FG 4-4 3pt. 6-6 FT, 4 Steals
Game 3: 24 pts. 4 Reb.
Game 2: 13 pts...i'll give you a game 2 flop
Game 1: 15 pts. 5 Reb. 4 Stl.
if by 70% of the time you actually meant part of 25%...then right on.
"France-boy"? wow. Tony Parker has done well all series, when he had his best game has 0 to do with who's a better team.
Duncan shot the ball just fine on the last shot, missed it by 1/4 inch on the front iron...LOL @ "couldn't" shoot over Dampier....DAMPIER??? got destroyed...all game, no exceptions.
I admit there were some bad calls against Dallas but the worst call of the game at a very critical point went against Duncan who made a great play with the momentum with SA...AND it lead to a technical foul...that's horrible.
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Originally Posted by TXZ28LS1
HAHA..I HATE THE SPURS....it kills me that all these people in san anonio act like they are the greatest team ever.. the suck.. they probably should have lost to sacramento.
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If you're supposed to be the defending champoins, how in the world are you going blame all your problems on the refs?
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haha...I said France Boy because I couldnt remember his name just then. 
Nothing against him. I guess I could have called him Eva's dude or something.
What I was trying to get across was that if you are bitching at the ref's for causing the Spurs to lose you should A) move to Seattle, and/or B) just shut up. I wouldn't and haven't bitched when the Mav's were called errantly. Anyway.
I will concede that the T was probably uncalled for, but the ref seemed to think that Duncan's body or the hit was taken inside the charge line...dunno. Either way, if THAT is what lost the game for them, then that's sad. I brought up the 10-0 run because it was just that...10 unanswered points late in the game. If the Spurs where that good, they should have stopped it. Although I admit they came back pretty well with Ginobli's 3's. I still think Manu is off/on, but its due to injury mostly. I am not a Spurs fan, nor am I really a Spur's "hater," but I can't stand it when people blame the ref's...if your team played better, they wouldnt have left it up to them. Kinda see what I mean here???
And I said couldnt shoot over Damp because that's what happened. If he could have at that moment, it would be 2-2, not 3-1. I don't blame Duncan that much though...w/o him it would have been a rediculous blow out. Damp sucks, but so does Diop...Avery uses them for what they are worth and it makes the team better. Johnson is the MVP of that team...not one player, not even Dirk.
Also, I don't think Parker, Ginob, or Duncan played well in Games 2-3. However, they all played well in 4...only problem was, they lost. Soft D IMO. Harris was in the paint WAY to easy. Fact is, they played REALLY well and still lost. What does that say about these two teams?
Nothing against him. I guess I could have called him Eva's dude or something.What I was trying to get across was that if you are bitching at the ref's for causing the Spurs to lose you should A) move to Seattle, and/or B) just shut up. I wouldn't and haven't bitched when the Mav's were called errantly. Anyway.
I will concede that the T was probably uncalled for, but the ref seemed to think that Duncan's body or the hit was taken inside the charge line...dunno. Either way, if THAT is what lost the game for them, then that's sad. I brought up the 10-0 run because it was just that...10 unanswered points late in the game. If the Spurs where that good, they should have stopped it. Although I admit they came back pretty well with Ginobli's 3's. I still think Manu is off/on, but its due to injury mostly. I am not a Spurs fan, nor am I really a Spur's "hater," but I can't stand it when people blame the ref's...if your team played better, they wouldnt have left it up to them. Kinda see what I mean here???
And I said couldnt shoot over Damp because that's what happened. If he could have at that moment, it would be 2-2, not 3-1. I don't blame Duncan that much though...w/o him it would have been a rediculous blow out. Damp sucks, but so does Diop...Avery uses them for what they are worth and it makes the team better. Johnson is the MVP of that team...not one player, not even Dirk.
Also, I don't think Parker, Ginob, or Duncan played well in Games 2-3. However, they all played well in 4...only problem was, they lost. Soft D IMO. Harris was in the paint WAY to easy. Fact is, they played REALLY well and still lost. What does that say about these two teams?
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Originally Posted by D Hurr is Like
0 sense made whatsoever
shouldn't have taken out Dirk maybe? I think it just so happened Ginobili hit 2 well defended 3's in a row and Parker had a steal that lead to an easy basket. Has 0 to do with officiating.
The spurs were on a run and there was a phantom call...an IMPORTANT call, period.
Dallas was front-iron away from losing this game...they are NOT any better than the Spurs, in fact I think the spurs are better...oh well, different strokes for different folks.
Ginobili in game 4: 8-11 FG 4-4 3pt. 6-6 FT, 4 Steals
Game 3: 24 pts. 4 Reb.
Game 2: 13 pts...i'll give you a game 2 flop
Game 1: 15 pts. 5 Reb. 4 Stl.
if by 70% of the time you actually meant part of 25%...then right on.
"France-boy"? wow. Tony Parker has done well all series, when he had his best game has 0 to do with who's a better team.
Duncan shot the ball just fine on the last shot, missed it by 1/4 inch on the front iron...LOL @ "couldn't" shoot over Dampier....DAMPIER??? got destroyed...all game, no exceptions.
I admit there were some bad calls against Dallas but the worst call of the game at a very critical point went against Duncan who made a great play with the momentum with SA...AND it lead to a technical foul...that's horrible.
shouldn't have taken out Dirk maybe? I think it just so happened Ginobili hit 2 well defended 3's in a row and Parker had a steal that lead to an easy basket. Has 0 to do with officiating.
The spurs were on a run and there was a phantom call...an IMPORTANT call, period.
Dallas was front-iron away from losing this game...they are NOT any better than the Spurs, in fact I think the spurs are better...oh well, different strokes for different folks.
Ginobili in game 4: 8-11 FG 4-4 3pt. 6-6 FT, 4 Steals
Game 3: 24 pts. 4 Reb.
Game 2: 13 pts...i'll give you a game 2 flop
Game 1: 15 pts. 5 Reb. 4 Stl.
if by 70% of the time you actually meant part of 25%...then right on.
"France-boy"? wow. Tony Parker has done well all series, when he had his best game has 0 to do with who's a better team.
Duncan shot the ball just fine on the last shot, missed it by 1/4 inch on the front iron...LOL @ "couldn't" shoot over Dampier....DAMPIER??? got destroyed...all game, no exceptions.
I admit there were some bad calls against Dallas but the worst call of the game at a very critical point went against Duncan who made a great play with the momentum with SA...AND it lead to a technical foul...that's horrible.
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Verdad Gallardo by the way, i'll admit that manu is very off/on, i've said it once, i'll say it again, i dont lik ehim. and never will. I dont feel comfortable with him having the ball in the final seconds. i dont like steve nash either tho<- i know everyone loves him, but i dont, I think he's out of control alot etc and nash and manu remind me of eachother.
What I was trying to get across was that if you are bitching at the ref's for causing the Spurs to lose you should A) move to Seattle, and/or B) just shut up. I wouldn't and haven't bitched when the Mav's were called errantly. Anyway.
Seldom will I chalk a game up to an official, but last night was an exception. That game was over when Duncan took that charge.
Duncan was at least 2 feet outside of the box, it was not even anywhere near close, he was set and he took it. The Pistons - Cavs refs were able to cite Billups with the offensive foul at the end of that game, if the same refs were at the SA - Dallas game, you can bet it's headed to SA 2-2. That call single handedly brought Dallas back into the game.
I also think SA is better because it took an absolute miracle display from Terry to put the game out of reach, the baseline turnaround and that high-lofted rainbow shot were low percentage to say the least, they went in but they won't on a regular basis. All of these extraneous variables will catch back up to Dallas I believe. The Spurs should win Game 5, Game 6 will probably be another war and if the Spurs get through Game 6, i'll say it's over in 7 for the Spurs. I'd predict this series ending in only one of 2 ways, Dallas in 6 or SA in 7. Could be wrong but we'll see.
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Originally Posted by D Hurr is Like
Seldom will I chalk a game up to an official, but last night was an exception. That game was over when Duncan took that charge.
Duncan was at least 2 feet outside of the box, it was not even anywhere near close, he was set and he took it. The Pistons - Cavs refs were able to cite Billups with the offensive foul at the end of that game, if the same refs were at the SA - Dallas game, you can bet it's headed to SA 2-2. That call single handedly brought Dallas back into the game.
I also think SA is better because it took an absolute miracle display from Terry to put the game out of reach, the baseline turnaround and that high-lofted rainbow shot were low percentage to say the least, they went in but they won't on a regular basis. All of these extraneous variables will catch back up to Dallas I believe. The Spurs should win Game 5, Game 6 will probably be another war and if the Spurs get through Game 6, i'll say it's over in 7 for the Spurs. I'd predict this series ending in only one of 2 ways, Dallas in 6 or SA in 7. Could be wrong but we'll see.
Duncan was at least 2 feet outside of the box, it was not even anywhere near close, he was set and he took it. The Pistons - Cavs refs were able to cite Billups with the offensive foul at the end of that game, if the same refs were at the SA - Dallas game, you can bet it's headed to SA 2-2. That call single handedly brought Dallas back into the game.
I also think SA is better because it took an absolute miracle display from Terry to put the game out of reach, the baseline turnaround and that high-lofted rainbow shot were low percentage to say the least, they went in but they won't on a regular basis. All of these extraneous variables will catch back up to Dallas I believe. The Spurs should win Game 5, Game 6 will probably be another war and if the Spurs get through Game 6, i'll say it's over in 7 for the Spurs. I'd predict this series ending in only one of 2 ways, Dallas in 6 or SA in 7. Could be wrong but we'll see.
I think we are in agreement. I'm leaning more towards Dallas in 6 rather than SA in 7.
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As long as the Spurs can keep the Mavs under 100 points+, the Spurs are 3-13 when a team scores more than a hundred on them. Yes I am a Mavs fan and want them to win but this is the Spurs and are not going to go away easily. The rest of the series should be a better than the first four. Go Mavs.
did you know since we got tim duncan. that the spurs have the best winning percentage of any major league team in any sport
we arent blaming all of our problems on the refs, BUT the refs can **** a team over. and thats what happened.
Game 4: Nowitzki trips on duncan's leg and they call a foul on timmy and he fouls out. That game is over but who know's what would of happened if that call was reversed
Game 5: Critical blocking foul I think on horry or duncan. Perfectly out of the circle and the momentum was with the spurs and they were up. Spurs would of pulled away but here comes free throws to keep the ***** mavs in it.
RIDICULOUS calls
Hopefully the spurs bounce back and not let this team come in our house and walk away with the series.
GO SPURS GO
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The Spurs are bringing everything they have and this time the Mavs have an answer, now agreed there where a couple of questionable calls and NON calls on both sides. Do you realize that the Spurs have went out in the 2nd round of the playoffs every year after they won a title. Interesting !!! I also find it interesting that Duncan could not hit what for him is usually a gimme with Dampier in his face, Duncan has faced much better. Now the foulf problems where an issue for the Mavs also Howard was limited due to fouls,and both our big men where also. San Antonio's biggest issue is Manu "gotta control the ball" Ginobili, that guy has lost the ball twice now in critical possesions at the end of the game. I am confident the Mavs will take this series in 6 if not tomorrow night, but either way I am not to over the top because the series is not the best to 3 it is the best to 4 and the Spurs are quality. I think the Spurs are at a loss match up wise because for every move AJ makes Pop has an answer until AJ makes a second move. I just hope for a good wrap up to this series and if I am lucky a Mavs runaway on SA's home court but I can wait till Game 6 if needed.
What is a real eye opener is the Mavs where a 3 pointer away from sweeping out the Spurs.
The key to last nights game was Dirk Nowitzki, who also has been the key to the series so far. His versatility and presence has forced the Spurs to play a small lineup, taking them out of their usual defensive schemes. San Antonio always has played two 7-footers on the front line and forced everything to the sideline and into their shot-blocking big men. But Nazr Mohammed and Rasho Nesterovic have been rendered useless in this series because Gregg Popovich can't find anyone for either to guard. (Steve Kerr Yahoo Sports).
What is a real eye opener is the Mavs where a 3 pointer away from sweeping out the Spurs.
The key to last nights game was Dirk Nowitzki, who also has been the key to the series so far. His versatility and presence has forced the Spurs to play a small lineup, taking them out of their usual defensive schemes. San Antonio always has played two 7-footers on the front line and forced everything to the sideline and into their shot-blocking big men. But Nazr Mohammed and Rasho Nesterovic have been rendered useless in this series because Gregg Popovich can't find anyone for either to guard. (Steve Kerr Yahoo Sports).
i have no idea what the point of your post was supposed to be.
Is my point understood!!
The duncan foul call might have been bogus but barry running down the court with the ball was a legit delay of game call. Im sorry I know this is gonna **** off more then a few people but the spurs have to be the biggest cry babys I have ever seen. I know some of the calls were bad but dallas has had its fair share to. The so called foul on gin by howard was total bs in game 3. The ball hitting the rim in game 4 total bs. DA getting the **** ran over him in game 3 was a bad call. The sign of a good team is taking what gets thrown at you and still being able to come out on top. Im sorry but I lost alot of respect for duncan this series. True he is one of the greatest in the league right now but he is the biggest baby ever. Ive never seen someone argue every call. Good lord. Ohh and theres nothing you can say to change my mind on that.
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My point was the spurs got fucked by these critical fouls because to me that changed the whole game and the reason why the mavs were able win game 4 and game 5.
Is my point understood!!
Is my point understood!!
that is OBVIOUS. im a spurs fan. i was just responding to h/cls6z with my post that said...
Originally Posted by Donohue96M6Z28
we arent blaming all of our problems on the refs, BUT the refs can **** a team over. and thats what happened. im not crying about it. the spurs arent out yet. even if we're down by 20 pts in game 5 with 20 secs left, im still going to be a spurs fan and will always go for them.
BUT the refs can **** a team over. and thats what happened
so you didnt need to make your point. bc i had already understood that. and i had already mentioned that.