View Poll Results: Who do you think is going to win?
THE ICEMAN
75
66.37%
JACKSON
38
33.63%
Voters: 113. You may not vote on this poll
UFC: Iceman VS. Jackson
Originally Posted by -Ross-
I picture Jackson's knees buckling after taking a counter right hook to the chin, then Big John is gonna have to rush in to save his life.
Hey, are yall getting it on PPV as usual??
Originally Posted by BigBronco
Rampage is VERY agile and quick for his size. Where did you come up with your assumptions?
Chuck is the Champ for starters. But in a straight punch for punch tradin licks. I think Chuck will land alot more punchs then jackson.... The Tito fight with Chuck was a good example of chucks crisp Punchs. Chuck fights & throw at alot of Different Angles. I think that is why he knocks alot of guys out.
Originally Posted by SEBLS1
Chuck is the Champ for starters. But in a straight punch for punch tradin licks. I think Chuck will land alot more punchs then jackson.... The Tito fight with Chuck was a good example of chucks crisp Punchs. Chuck fights & throw at alot of Different Angles. I think that is why he knocks alot of guys out.
Pride has DEPTH with its fighters in the 205 class, unlike the UFC. Tito is wearing out, but I do know why you mean with the Iceman's strikes.
Originally Posted by BigBronco
True Chuck is the champ, but you must remember the 205lb heavy hitters are starting to move over into the UFC. Wand still has not had his shot against Liddell yet.
Pride has DEPTH with its fighters in the 205 class, unlike the UFC. Tito is wearing out, but I do know why you mean with the Iceman's strikes.
Pride has DEPTH with its fighters in the 205 class, unlike the UFC. Tito is wearing out, but I do know why you mean with the Iceman's strikes.
It should be a good fight this weekend.
Originally Posted by -Ross-
That's what everyone said about Pride's heavyweights and you saw what happen to the guy that was supposed to "clean house" in that division. He suffered one of the worst knockouts in UFC history.
It should be a good fight this weekend.
It should be a good fight this weekend.
Big thing though is that he has now built a cage in his house and is training there. He said once he gets the UFC heavyweight belt, he will retire from the MMA.
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Originally Posted by BigBronco
True Chuck is the champ, but you must remember the 205lb heavy hitters are starting to move over into the UFC. Wand still has not had his shot against Liddell yet.
Pride has DEPTH with its fighters in the 205 class, unlike the UFC. Tito is wearing out, but I do know why you mean with the Iceman's strikes.
Pride has DEPTH with its fighters in the 205 class, unlike the UFC. Tito is wearing out, but I do know why you mean with the Iceman's strikes.
I have to agree on the Tito wearing out. He has not beat anyone worth while & has yet to get past chuck. He may as well be #2 in the 205 class.
Do any of you watch the Beuadog fights? What kind of fighters are these & how are they different from UFC & PRIDE?
Originally Posted by SEBLS1
I have to agree on the Tito wearing out. He has not beat anyone worth while & has yet to get past chuck. He may as well be #2 in the 205 class.
Do any of you watch the Beuadog fights? What kind of fighters are these & how are they different from UFC & PRIDE?
Do any of you watch the Beuadog fights? What kind of fighters are these & how are they different from UFC & PRIDE?
I personally like watching the International Fight League.
Originally Posted by BigBronco
Bodog is pretty good. Most of them are young but will be a good place to find new talent.
I personally like watching the International Fight League.
I personally like watching the International Fight League.
Yeah i want to get in some local fighting here in DFW. But I need to get on over at Guy Metzgers gym in Forney & finding the time to go train with Work & kids is tough. But I do enjoy watching Fighting & particpating in it.
What channel is the International Fight League on & what days & time's. I will start looking out for it.
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Bodog (online gambling co.) started their independent fighting league in which they have found alot of new and young talent, as MMA grows everyday and is taking out boxing. I have watched a handful of fights and been to watch other fighting events in Austin as well.
Liddel is a striker, sometimes can be wild trying to go for the knockout. In which Jackson likes to get close and also try to get inside, and if possible work on the Ground and Pound. He has pretty good stand-up as well.
Jackson also has a good chin and heart, i have seen him def work to win, and yes granted he has been in a slump, but losing to Wand and Shogun isn't that bad considering they are the finest fighters in the 205 class.
Who knows, fighting is fighting when it comes down to it. A punch, or kick can end any fight.
And like SEBLS1 should know as he stated he fights, you go into the ring with a game plan, but the moment you get hit, plans go out the window, and talent and practice is what pays off.
After my knee surgery on June 11th, I hope to get back in the gym and start training with a good friend of mine at school... get back into shape.
Liddel is a striker, sometimes can be wild trying to go for the knockout. In which Jackson likes to get close and also try to get inside, and if possible work on the Ground and Pound. He has pretty good stand-up as well.
Jackson also has a good chin and heart, i have seen him def work to win, and yes granted he has been in a slump, but losing to Wand and Shogun isn't that bad considering they are the finest fighters in the 205 class.
Who knows, fighting is fighting when it comes down to it. A punch, or kick can end any fight.
And like SEBLS1 should know as he stated he fights, you go into the ring with a game plan, but the moment you get hit, plans go out the window, and talent and practice is what pays off.
After my knee surgery on June 11th, I hope to get back in the gym and start training with a good friend of mine at school... get back into shape.
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Joined: Apr 2004
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Originally Posted by SEBLS1
Yeah i want to get in some local fighting here in DFW. But I need to get on over at Guy Metzgers gym in Forney & finding the time to go train with Work & kids is tough. But I do enjoy watching Fighting & particpating in it.
What channel is the International Fight League on & what days & time's. I will start looking out for it.
What channel is the International Fight League on & what days & time's. I will start looking out for it.
I have seen it sometimes on FSN, and I must say they have some talent in there as well... It wont be long before they(UFC) start picking up undercard fighters from the IFL from what I have seen.
Originally Posted by | Powered by Satan |
I have seen it sometimes on FSN, and I must say they have some talent in there as well... It wont be long before they(UFC) start picking up undercard fighters from the IFL from what I have seen.
I watch Bo Dog on that ION channel I think is what its called. I see FSN all the time & have never seen those fights, But I will start looking from here on out.
Originally Posted by | Powered by Satan |
Bodog (online gambling co.) started their independent fighting league in which they have found alot of new and young talent, as MMA grows everyday and is taking out boxing. I have watched a handful of fights and been to watch other fighting events in Austin as well.
Liddel is a striker, sometimes can be wild trying to go for the knockout. In which Jackson likes to get close and also try to get inside, and if possible work on the Ground and Pound. He has pretty good stand-up as well.
Jackson also has a good chin and heart, i have seen him def work to win, and yes granted he has been in a slump, but losing to Wand and Shogun isn't that bad considering they are the finest fighters in the 205 class.
Who knows, fighting is fighting when it comes down to it. A punch, or kick can end any fight.
And like SEBLS1 should know as he stated he fights, you go into the ring with a game plan, but the moment you get hit, plans go out the window, and talent and practice is what pays off.
After my knee surgery on June 11th, I hope to get back in the gym and start training with a good friend of mine at school... get back into shape.
Liddel is a striker, sometimes can be wild trying to go for the knockout. In which Jackson likes to get close and also try to get inside, and if possible work on the Ground and Pound. He has pretty good stand-up as well.
Jackson also has a good chin and heart, i have seen him def work to win, and yes granted he has been in a slump, but losing to Wand and Shogun isn't that bad considering they are the finest fighters in the 205 class.
Who knows, fighting is fighting when it comes down to it. A punch, or kick can end any fight.
And like SEBLS1 should know as he stated he fights, you go into the ring with a game plan, but the moment you get hit, plans go out the window, and talent and practice is what pays off.
After my knee surgery on June 11th, I hope to get back in the gym and start training with a good friend of mine at school... get back into shape.
I think Chuck will be very stand offish in the 1st run & let Rampage come to him rather then Chuck pushing the fight. One thing is for sure that I agree with you on. Rampage is brutal up close. He has the weight & the size & power to push his body around in a close up fight. But I think chuck knows he needs to keep his distance with Jackson in this fight. I predict it going to the 3rd round & chuck knocking Jackson out or getting knocked out.
I'm going to miss this one 
Depending on when it starts I guess, I may be in Hawaii by then, if not I'll still be in the air waiting. Have to catch it on youtube or something later if not
Depending on when it starts I guess, I may be in Hawaii by then, if not I'll still be in the air waiting. Have to catch it on youtube or something later if not 
Based on my experience in MMA (practicing) and being a fan. I'm going to say Jackson wins this fight but by decision. Of course, the last time I made a prediction saying that Pride fighters were much more talented then UFC fighters, maybe 4 minutes later after saying that, CroCop was stone cold knocked out and folded like a lawn chair. So, sufice to say I don't have any creditability and I've been doing this stuff since we called it "FreeStyle Fighting" and "ValeTudo" 
Originally Posted by SEBLS1
We train out in Sachsee if you want to do some Grappling. There is a 6.4 240lb guy that Grapples & I can't wait to grapple with him. I enjoy Grappling more in training. I don't get hurt in grappling. But when I spare I always have pains in my Elbow from thowing Jabs & punchs.
But I'm old (30) Last edited by jeffstar; May 24, 2007 at 02:29 PM.