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01-01-2013, 12:23 PM
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really?! you guys shut down my profile, PMs and signature cuz i had my small time repair shop listed in my sig?!
thats really mature. like i have any means to compete with the site sponsors or take business away from them. i have that sig pic on each forum im on, solely so people recognize me even though i may not have a high post count or feedback on the specific site.
would it have been that difficult to contact me prior to talk about this situation that may have hurt your feelings?
thats really mature. like i have any means to compete with the site sponsors or take business away from them. i have that sig pic on each forum im on, solely so people recognize me even though i may not have a high post count or feedback on the specific site.
would it have been that difficult to contact me prior to talk about this situation that may have hurt your feelings?
01-01-2013, 12:27 PM
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and seeing as i cant PM anymore.. maybe one of you admins can tell me what rule i broke.
because according to these rules, i didnt break any..
because according to these rules, i didnt break any..
We have a very strict policy against allowing non-sponsoring vendors to be discussed or marketed here. Our site advertisers pay for this privilege to market and solicit business through the site, and we have very little sympathy for non-sponsors who do not pay for this privilege.
Some of you might mistake our policy for targetting guys that help eachother out with trying to save a buck. Guys that do installations for beer and pizza, or maybe a couple bucks. We are all car guys/gals here, and LS1TECH does not have a problem with members helping eachother out. If you see someone asking for help, you are more than able to send them a private message and offer assistance. You can even recommend them a shop that you have had good experience with. You can also talk about products that are made by places that do not sponsor LS1TECH. We have always encouraged the spread of information and knowledge here.
We need to more clearly define our policy, so hopefully it will be understood without question.
1. We do NOT allow pricing or any form of contact information to be posted for non-sponsoring vendors. This includes email address, website, physical address, phone number, etc.. We also do not allow members to reply with statements such as "PM me for details or contact info!"
2. Non-sponsoring vendors and individuals may not use LS1TECH with intent to generate income. If you are trying to sell items or charge for your services, we ask that you become a sponsor on this site. Contact me if you need the rates to advertise here.
3. We allow members to sell used or 1-of items and vehicles in the classifieds and regional forums. This has never been a problem, unless we get a vendor trying to use the classifieds to sell new products or products in quantity. Services (labor) is never permitted for selling in the classifieds or regionals.
4. We are specifically targetting individuals who frequently send private messages and emails through our site to members who might be shopping or asking questions to paying sponsors. These individuals are undercutting the sponsors, trying to sell parts and services privately on the the site. This is considered unwanted spam, and is not tolerated on LS1TECH. Violators will be placed in the "Restricted User" category:
Restricted User Group:
-no access to email anyone through the site
-no access to private messaging system
-cannot see member profiles or location info
-cannot edit or delete their own threads
-cannot update their signatures or profiles
5. We understand that in special circumstances or regions, there might be limited assistance available, or no site sponsors in the area. We have no problem with you guys using the PM system to discuss things in this situation. We want everyone to get the installation/repair help they need. If you do have an excellent resource, maybe you could talk them into signing on here.
6. We allow non-sponsoring manufacturers and vendors to come to LS1TECH and speak about their new products or answer technical questions about their products. This has never been a problem. Most of these vendors will often direct any business to their distributors who advertise here. We encourage industry people to visit and interact here. They can do so without soliciting products, this has been proven for years now. We only ask that non-sponsors make no attempt to post any form of pricing or contact information (email, phone, website, address, etc...) with intentions to solicit for business. We ask that they direct all sales through a current vendor, or become a sponsor to do so directly.
Hope this clears things up!
Thanks.
Some of you might mistake our policy for targetting guys that help eachother out with trying to save a buck. Guys that do installations for beer and pizza, or maybe a couple bucks. We are all car guys/gals here, and LS1TECH does not have a problem with members helping eachother out. If you see someone asking for help, you are more than able to send them a private message and offer assistance. You can even recommend them a shop that you have had good experience with. You can also talk about products that are made by places that do not sponsor LS1TECH. We have always encouraged the spread of information and knowledge here.
We need to more clearly define our policy, so hopefully it will be understood without question.
1. We do NOT allow pricing or any form of contact information to be posted for non-sponsoring vendors. This includes email address, website, physical address, phone number, etc.. We also do not allow members to reply with statements such as "PM me for details or contact info!"
2. Non-sponsoring vendors and individuals may not use LS1TECH with intent to generate income. If you are trying to sell items or charge for your services, we ask that you become a sponsor on this site. Contact me if you need the rates to advertise here.
3. We allow members to sell used or 1-of items and vehicles in the classifieds and regional forums. This has never been a problem, unless we get a vendor trying to use the classifieds to sell new products or products in quantity. Services (labor) is never permitted for selling in the classifieds or regionals.
4. We are specifically targetting individuals who frequently send private messages and emails through our site to members who might be shopping or asking questions to paying sponsors. These individuals are undercutting the sponsors, trying to sell parts and services privately on the the site. This is considered unwanted spam, and is not tolerated on LS1TECH. Violators will be placed in the "Restricted User" category:
Restricted User Group:
-no access to email anyone through the site
-no access to private messaging system
-cannot see member profiles or location info
-cannot edit or delete their own threads
-cannot update their signatures or profiles
5. We understand that in special circumstances or regions, there might be limited assistance available, or no site sponsors in the area. We have no problem with you guys using the PM system to discuss things in this situation. We want everyone to get the installation/repair help they need. If you do have an excellent resource, maybe you could talk them into signing on here.
6. We allow non-sponsoring manufacturers and vendors to come to LS1TECH and speak about their new products or answer technical questions about their products. This has never been a problem. Most of these vendors will often direct any business to their distributors who advertise here. We encourage industry people to visit and interact here. They can do so without soliciting products, this has been proven for years now. We only ask that non-sponsors make no attempt to post any form of pricing or contact information (email, phone, website, address, etc...) with intentions to solicit for business. We ask that they direct all sales through a current vendor, or become a sponsor to do so directly.
Hope this clears things up!
Thanks.
01-01-2013, 12:59 PM
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1. We do NOT allow pricing or any form of contact information to be posted for non-sponsoring vendors. This includes email address, website, physical address, phone number, etc.
2. Non-sponsoring vendors and individuals may not use LS1TECH with intent to generate income. If you are trying to sell items or charge for your services, we ask that you become a sponsor on this site.
4. We are specifically targeting individuals who frequently send private messages and emails through our site to members who might be shopping or asking questions to paying sponsors. These individuals are undercutting the sponsors, trying to sell parts and services privately on the the site.
01-01-2013, 01:08 PM
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Hello,
I just looked up your old signature information that was removed by another staff member. It seems that you had the business name as well as a contact phone number posted in your signature. This would be in violation of rule #1 that you posted above:
The site sponsors here pay a great deal of money for their sponsorship, so we have to be pretty serious about enforcing the "no direct contact information" rule.
Lots of websites follow a pratice like this, and it sometimes affects people who aren't even in direct competition with any vendors. For example, I am a member of another site that would not allow me to post my local club name in my signature. I didn't even have contact information posted, just a name with no link/hyperlink of any kind. A moderator there removed it, and then posted a link in my signature sending me to their "sig rules" page. There, it stated that no business contact info or advertisements could be posted in signatures, which I found comical since I didn't post any contact info and wasn't even advertising a business (it was a small club). I didn't argue with them though, it was easier to just let it go. I can understand why they did it, even if I don't agree with it.
I just looked up your old signature information that was removed by another staff member. It seems that you had the business name as well as a contact phone number posted in your signature. This would be in violation of rule #1 that you posted above:
1. We do NOT allow pricing or any form of contact information to be posted for non-sponsoring vendors. This includes email address, website, physical address, phone number, etc.. We also do not allow members to reply with statements such as "PM me for details or contact info!"
Lots of websites follow a pratice like this, and it sometimes affects people who aren't even in direct competition with any vendors. For example, I am a member of another site that would not allow me to post my local club name in my signature. I didn't even have contact information posted, just a name with no link/hyperlink of any kind. A moderator there removed it, and then posted a link in my signature sending me to their "sig rules" page. There, it stated that no business contact info or advertisements could be posted in signatures, which I found comical since I didn't post any contact info and wasn't even advertising a business (it was a small club). I didn't argue with them though, it was easier to just let it go. I can understand why they did it, even if I don't agree with it.
01-01-2013, 01:25 PM
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re: really?! seeing as how you guys locked the thread so i have no other way of communicating...
so on here(ls1tech), its not allowed to have contact info posted, but that sig banner i cant have either? even though i have never nor do i plan to promote business of any kind? i dont sell anything new. anything i sell used is mine anyway.
for your info, my "business" is more of a hobby shop that a couple friends have. nothing that would warrant a site sponsorship IMO.
it would have been nice of you guys to at least tryyy to contact and discuss this matter if its such a big deal. im a very reasonable person. now what is it going to take for me to be able to have PMs back and all that jazz?
so on here(ls1tech), its not allowed to have contact info posted, but that sig banner i cant have either? even though i have never nor do i plan to promote business of any kind? i dont sell anything new. anything i sell used is mine anyway.
for your info, my "business" is more of a hobby shop that a couple friends have. nothing that would warrant a site sponsorship IMO.
it would have been nice of you guys to at least tryyy to contact and discuss this matter if its such a big deal. im a very reasonable person. now what is it going to take for me to be able to have PMs back and all that jazz?