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04-14-2018, 07:51 PM
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Another state ref question... Hey guys another state ref question here, as you may have imagined I’ve already spent countless hours researching all the state ref and 27156(b) situations that various car owners all across California have been in. For those that have mods of no return many of them stated they payed the bail out fine when they got the ticket in the mail, some even paid online, others went to the clerk.
Basically I got popped for modified exhaust (27151) and missing smog device (27156(b) . I have a 98 Corvette straight piped for a little under 2 years and barely got pulled over for the first time because of my exhaust which led to further investigation of my car. I bought the car like this I haven’t done a single thing to it. The previous owner said that the owner before him converted it from auto to manual and swapped an ls1 from a ws6. Ive known the previous owner all my life so i trusted his word on the swap and all that and to date I haven’t had any problems mechanically.
Ive considered just getting a stock exhaust and stock intake and going to the ref but a friend told me I’m not going to pass because of the swapped engine, so I’ve patiently waited 2 weeks without driving my car for my ticket and it finally came. It said pay 75$ + proof of corrections and all the other court stuff. I read that someone went online to check it out and it gave him the option to pay the bailout fine and close the case although it didn’t say so on his notice. I obviously tried that right away and it says I’m ineligble to pay online because I need proof.
What should I do next? Can I go to the courthouse and ask the clerk for the bailout fine? Or will I eventually have to go in front of a judge? I would rather pay the bailout fee which I’ve heard is 700$ max than have to go to a state ref which I heard is **** about EVERYTHING. Thanks guys
Basically I got popped for modified exhaust (27151) and missing smog device (27156(b) . I have a 98 Corvette straight piped for a little under 2 years and barely got pulled over for the first time because of my exhaust which led to further investigation of my car. I bought the car like this I haven’t done a single thing to it. The previous owner said that the owner before him converted it from auto to manual and swapped an ls1 from a ws6. Ive known the previous owner all my life so i trusted his word on the swap and all that and to date I haven’t had any problems mechanically.
Ive considered just getting a stock exhaust and stock intake and going to the ref but a friend told me I’m not going to pass because of the swapped engine, so I’ve patiently waited 2 weeks without driving my car for my ticket and it finally came. It said pay 75$ + proof of corrections and all the other court stuff. I read that someone went online to check it out and it gave him the option to pay the bailout fine and close the case although it didn’t say so on his notice. I obviously tried that right away and it says I’m ineligble to pay online because I need proof.
What should I do next? Can I go to the courthouse and ask the clerk for the bailout fine? Or will I eventually have to go in front of a judge? I would rather pay the bailout fee which I’ve heard is 700$ max than have to go to a state ref which I heard is **** about EVERYTHING. Thanks guys
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04-16-2018, 11:18 AM
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This is what I understand about what a seller needs to provide to a buyer of a used car in Calif.
Under California law, the seller is required to provide the buyer with a valid smog inspection certification at the time of the sale or transfer. Section 24007 (b)(2) of the California Vehicle Code provides that it is the responsibility of the seller to provide a valid smog certificate at the time of delivery of the vehicle.
OP...did the seller provide you with a smog cert? ....and was it a legit smog test or "pay to pass" cert?
you have 3 issues
1. your exhaust has been cited for being to loud so you need to make it quieter (under 95 db IIRC)
2. you have missing or altered emission components, you will need to correct that
3. you have a engine transplant with a motor that is not original type to car so you need to have whatever emission components that motor would have...and even that motor transplants can themselves be tricky to comply
IDK if as suggested pleading no contest in court the ruling would be to pay a dismissal fee without correcting the cited issues...if it does post that so others know how it worked out
Under California law, the seller is required to provide the buyer with a valid smog inspection certification at the time of the sale or transfer. Section 24007 (b)(2) of the California Vehicle Code provides that it is the responsibility of the seller to provide a valid smog certificate at the time of delivery of the vehicle.
OP...did the seller provide you with a smog cert? ....and was it a legit smog test or "pay to pass" cert?
you have 3 issues
1. your exhaust has been cited for being to loud so you need to make it quieter (under 95 db IIRC)
2. you have missing or altered emission components, you will need to correct that
3. you have a engine transplant with a motor that is not original type to car so you need to have whatever emission components that motor would have...and even that motor transplants can themselves be tricky to comply
IDK if as suggested pleading no contest in court the ruling would be to pay a dismissal fee without correcting the cited issues...if it does post that so others know how it worked out
04-16-2018, 07:29 PM
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You can put a newer engine into an older car. I got pulled over for modified exhaust and all I had was a hooker cat back, but the cop sent me to state ref. Jerk off was a young guy and said car was too low also, but it was stock height and just had ground effects. My car originally had a 6 cylinder. I had a swapped an engine from a WS6 as well. When I took it in the state ref shook his head and told me, they need to educate these cops and stop wasting his time. He ran a smog on it, it passed, he said nice car by the way and I was gone. In my case, I didnt correct anything, thought the swap would be an issue but it wasnt.
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This is what I understand about what a seller needs to provide to a buyer of a used car in Calif.
Under California law, the seller is required to provide the buyer with a valid smog inspection certification at the time of the sale or transfer. Section 24007 (b)(2) of the California Vehicle Code provides that it is the responsibility of the seller to provide a valid smog certificate at the time of delivery of the vehicle.
OP...did the seller provide you with a smog cert? ....and was it a legit smog test or "pay to pass" cert?
you have 3 issues
1. your exhaust has been cited for being to loud so you need to make it quieter (under 95 db IIRC)
2. you have missing or altered emission components, you will need to correct that
3. you have a engine transplant with a motor that is not original type to car so you need to have whatever emission components that motor would have...and even that motor transplants can themselves be tricky to comply
IDK if as suggested pleading no contest in court the ruling would be to pay a dismissal fee without correcting the cited issues...if it does post that so others know how it worked out
Under California law, the seller is required to provide the buyer with a valid smog inspection certification at the time of the sale or transfer. Section 24007 (b)(2) of the California Vehicle Code provides that it is the responsibility of the seller to provide a valid smog certificate at the time of delivery of the vehicle.
OP...did the seller provide you with a smog cert? ....and was it a legit smog test or "pay to pass" cert?
you have 3 issues
1. your exhaust has been cited for being to loud so you need to make it quieter (under 95 db IIRC)
2. you have missing or altered emission components, you will need to correct that
3. you have a engine transplant with a motor that is not original type to car so you need to have whatever emission components that motor would have...and even that motor transplants can themselves be tricky to comply
IDK if as suggested pleading no contest in court the ruling would be to pay a dismissal fee without correcting the cited issues...if it does post that so others know how it worked out
I have no problem putting stock exhaust back on and all that stuff. Just afraid of going to the ref because of the swap. Technically it is the motor the car came with it’s just not the original one. Even then I don’t want to risk it because I don’t want to be in for a ride if the state ref says I need paperwork for the motor.
I will probably resolving this issue sometime this week if I have the chance. Every situation that I’ve researched they have all paid a dismissal fee at some point of the court process but I will definetly update you guys thanks for the help
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You can put a newer engine into an older car. I got pulled over for modified exhaust and all I had was a hooker cat back, but the cop sent me to state ref. Jerk off was a young guy and said car was too low also, but it was stock height and just had ground effects. My car originally had a 6 cylinder. I had a swapped an engine from a WS6 as well. When I took it in the state ref shook his head and told me, they need to educate these cops and stop wasting his time. He ran a smog on it, it passed, he said nice car by the way and I was gone. In my case, I didnt correct anything, thought the swap would be an issue but it wasnt.
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04-18-2018, 01:59 PM
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I would not say anything about it being a different motor than original one as long as it came wit a LS1. Just fix the emission stuff
IDK about the comment of pleading no contest and just paying a dismissal fee if that in fact works. You can try that and see what happens
Court may accept a no contest plea but still make you not only pay the fine for that violation but also require you to fix the emission stuff to keep the registration valid