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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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I have the STS on my camaro anybody know where i can get it smoged in cali? it should pass smog but not the visual the carb # should should be out soon for it just need it smoged now thanks
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Old Nov 24, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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they lied to you... they will not have a carb #... they have been saying that for years now. not gonna happen... PM me if you want the low down.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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It is just an Catback with a "Huffer" on it. Why can't it pass?
All the mods are behind the Cats.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 06:57 AM
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this is an email i got from them almost a year ago! wonder whats going on.



"Squires Turbo Systems has been working with the California Air Resource Board to offer a street legal and emissions approved turbo system for our California based customers. The time has finally come! Three weeks ago at a testing station in Riverside, an STS powered 2004 GTO not only passed the required test, but it passed with 75% lower emissions than stock! We were informed yesterday that our C.A.R.B. number should be awarded by the end of this week. This C.A.R.B. number will have a blanket policy for all of our GM based kits. This is great news for us, and for all of our power hungry potential customers in California. Feel free to contact me with questions or for pricing and availability. "


Shade Ferre
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(866)WE TURBO ext 802
(801)224-3477 ext 802
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 11:49 AM
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The smog tech i talked to said they need to see a carb# Maybe i need to shop around
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 12:54 PM
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just an FYI... shade was the worst and biggest liar that worked there.. and he quit in December 05... "Joe" is the guy that took over Shades area's.. and he is a bigger liar than shade.. he'll tell you anything to make a sale... they only work on commission there.. so.. you be the judge

they to date.. have not submitted anything new to CARB..

the only thing that was given a CARB EO# was the 04 GTO kit, using the GT67 and meth kit... thats ALL!!!

Carb doesnt give "blanket policy's".. they test each car, each system with every part, because 1 car model will react to a system differently, or require different components for each system..

do yourself and your car a favor... wait till they get the EO(executive order) # from CARB (if they ever do).. otherwise if you get nailed for "car looks like its a street racer" by the cops.. you're in for it if they tow it to a ref.
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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There is no CARB number for the F-body system. There are a couple things to try. The first is the write down the GTO STS kit CARB number and bring it to them. They might take it. The other option would be to disconnect the charge pipe at the intake and reinstall the stock airbox and and filter. Since the turbo is mounted post-cats, they can't fail you because of it. It's just a really expensive muffler Obviously the smog tech will know whats up, but he can't fail you if the charge pipe isn't hooked up.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 12:39 AM
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what is this Carb EO#D-593 for it list my car can i use that?
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by eas020223
what is this Carb EO#D-593 for it list my car can i use that?
According to this http://arb.ca.gov/msprog/aftermkt/devices/eo/D-593.pdf you should be ok. I guess it is carb approved.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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that document WAS correct for about a month... then, that document was later changed.. to ONLY be the 04 GTO... that CARB EO # is not good for anything other than the 04 GTO... if you dont believe me.. call up CARB or hell... call up STS.. speak with rick or dave.. and they will tell you the same thing.. their website states this as well.
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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wow i though sts was carb okay. What a $5,000 piece of ****. You can make the same thing for under $3,000
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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just get a 04 gto decal and go to a none wiser smog shop
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by allblacksrt4
wow i though sts was carb okay. What a $5,000 piece of ****. You can make the same thing for under $3,000

acutally if you know where to get the stuff.. you can make it for less than 1600$... the main cost being the turbo


hell their "at cost" price for employee's is 1000-1300... some people on this board have done it for around 900$...
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sercastiK
just get a 04 gto decal and go to a none wiser smog shop

and if that shop decides to run the EO code #.. and it says GTO.. and your car is an F-body... thats a no go...

you have a 50/50 chance.. might as well try it
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 11:21 PM
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*rollin them dice*
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Old Nov 27, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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Just disconnect the ******* charge pipe!!! Problem solved.
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
Just disconnect the ******* charge pipe!!! Problem solved.
smartest thing said in this thread
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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferocity02
Just disconnect the ******* charge pipe!!! Problem solved.

that and change the PCV back to normal, put your stock air cleaner back on.. and you should be good.
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