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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 01:22 AM
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hey ppl im getting a new rear end for my 67 camaro and im still not sure on what to get...i heard that the 9'' rear end u loose about 30-40 rwhp since it is so heavy to push that gears on that rear end.....is this true...would a 12 bolt be better on the car....btw im getting around 400 hp on the 67 so thats what im trying to work with....
12 bolt or 9''???????????????????????????????
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 01:32 AM
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ok first off you will lose about 30rwhp with a 9" but its not due to the weight of the gears, its because of the offset pinion design, which also makes it stronger.

also the 12bolt will also zap hp compared to something like our 7.5" ring geared 10bolt.

Personally if the car is going to be stick I would always go with a 9". with an auto I think the 12 bolt will be ok. But why take a chance go with a 9" and dont be worrying about if your going to break things
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 01:37 AM
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yeah im kinda going for the 9'' but i need to make up my mind cus i should be ordering this rear end no later than this week
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 01:43 AM
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go with the 9'' james...it'll give you peace of mind bro
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 01:57 AM
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Tell us what the car is gonna be used for first... if youre gonna never run sticky tires a 10 bolt will be fine. Hell a 12 bolt will be fine with 500 hp ... also the 12 bolt design isnt best for modern F bodys, the 67 camaros have a different rear suspension. so a 12 bolt might be alright for even high hp applications...

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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 02:25 AM
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you will be fine with both....personally, i think a 9" is overkill for your plans with the vehicle...
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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Chances to break eather one is slim to none.....its really your choice
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BeemerZ28
ok first off you will lose about 30rwhp with a 9" but its not due to the weight of the gears, its because of the offset pinion design, which also makes it stronger.

also the 12bolt will also zap hp compared to something like our 7.5" ring geared 10bolt.

Personally if the car is going to be stick I would always go with a 9". with an auto I think the 12 bolt will be ok. But why take a chance go with a 9" and dont be worrying about if your going to break things
No way in hell you lose 30rwhp with a 9in! My car made 432rwhp and then after the 9in it made 423rwhp. This was a 9in with 4.11 gears going from a 10 bolt with 3.42s. If youre going to get an aftermarket rear, 9in is the only way to go man. Ive had them both, and id never buy another 12 bolt.
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Originally Posted by LSGunZ28
also the 12 bolt design isnt best for modern F bodys, the 67 camaros have a different rear suspension. so a 12 bolt might be alright for even high hp applications...
exactly, 12 bolt + torque arms are a recipe for massive gear whine
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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Chances are you will end up with a lot of wheel hop if you punch it anyway, unless you get a 4 link suspension to match. Something to consider before you place your order!

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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroker396
Chances are you will end up with a lot of wheel hop if you punch it anyway, unless you get a 4 link suspension to match. Something to consider before you place your order!

Hindsight can be a Bitch.
? LCA's and a torque arm should be more then enough to fix the wheelhop. Did you do a 4 link?
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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It's been said before but here it goes again.....

The 67 does not have a TQ arm.

What kills the 12bolts in the TQ arm cars is case deflection due to the mounting location of the tq arm, in a leaf spring ladder bar car it will be just as good as a 9" until you get into crazy tq numbers and need the 40spline axles.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 02NBMWS6
? LCA's and a torque arm should be more then enough to fix the wheelhop. Did you do a 4 link?
I'm a dumbass, this is for the 67...
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Great so who is going to take his place at invasion since the car will be undergoing major surgery.

Juiced??? 02NBMWS6???

Love to see that thing run a 10.4

Sorry James.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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Great so who is going to take his place at invasion since the car will be undergoing major surgery.

Juiced??? 02NBMWS6???

Love to see that thing run a 10.4

Sorry James.
I signed up on Friday, did you get my info? Gonna bring the SS out
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroker396
Great so who is going to take his place at invasion since the car will be undergoing major surgery.

Juiced??? 02NBMWS6???

Love to see that thing run a 10.4

Sorry James.
you rang sir?
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:33 PM
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PM me your real name I will check the list tonight. more than likely did.

Juiced, yep I wanna see some FI car out there at the track, any chance you will be coming?

Dang I am a Thread Hijacker
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroker396
PM me your real name I will check the list tonight. more than likely did.

Juiced, yep I wanna see some FI car out there at the track, any chance you will be coming?

Dang I am a Thread Hijacker
no.... Some unforeseen changes and scheduling conflict have left me high and dry at the moment. Still pushing to get everything sorted out but 2 major items are out of my direct control.
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Old Apr 21, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Stroker396
Great so who is going to take his place at invasion since the car will be undergoing major surgery.

Juiced??? 02NBMWS6???

Love to see that thing run a 10.4

Sorry James.
well i might bring my gf vette to run and show but i have to convince her since she looks like she dont want to at the moment
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Old Apr 22, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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I say run the 9". Piece of mind is never a bad thing.
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