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Old 09-19-2010, 10:28 PM   #1
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White 1998 Z06 LS-6 Trans-Am

GM Performance Parts C5-Z06 LS-6
Newly Built engine in July & August (including LG Motorsports G5X3 114 LSA cam, custom ported heads & intake)
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The Z06 uses a high-output version of the LS1 small-block engine. The name was changed to LS6 after substantial modifications. The new engine powerplant produces 405HP stock and looks identical in external appearance. .The stock LS6 produces 405 horsepower (302 kW) at 6000 rpm, and 400 lbft (542 Nm) at 4800 rpm. The engine redlines at 6500 rpm (versus the LS1's 6000 rpm redline).
The LS6 utilizes an aluminum block which has been modified to allow greater bay-to-bay breathing. Typically the LS1 engine allows too much air in its crankcase developing into parasitic loss of power. The LS6 relieves this unwanted pressure translating into a removal of parasitic loss thus gaining more power.

New Pistons
The LS6 utilizes modified versions of the LS1 pistons. The new pistons are made from M142 aluminum alloy which has proved to be stronger and more durable then the material used in the LS1. The pistons have been reshaped to have a slight barrel shape difficult to see for the normal onlooker. The new design also reduces internal mechanical noise because of its increased efficiency.

Increased Compression
The LS6 cylinder heads have been cast with pent-roof combustion chambers. This modification of the LS1 has decreased the cylinder size thus promoting a greater Compression ratio; from 10.1:1 to 10.5:1. The LS6 ports have been cast using tighter tolerances which has resulted in increased power, thermal efficiency, and increased volumetric efficiency.

High-Profile Camshaft
The LS6 utilizes a camshaft constructed from steel billet materials. The timing of the camshaft has been altered by increasing the lift from those of the LS1 to provide quicker opening times. To accommodate higher lift and longer duration of the camshaft the valve springs have been manufactured to become stiffer. The springs are wound tighter then those in the LS1 which results in stronger springs able to handle the increased strain from the camshaft. These modifications result in more efficient air-flow into the combustion chambers and thus an increase in power.
Fuel Injectors.

The LS6 utilizes new and larger fuel injectors. The new injectors deliver 3.6 grams of fuel per second an increase of 10% above the LS1. The injectors were designed to deliver more fuel as a result of the increase in air flow from the increased compression and camshaft opening duration modifications. The fuel to air mixture ratio needs to remain proportional to achieve operational status. Internal PCV System. The LS6 utilizes a newly designed Positive Crankcase Ventilation valve. The new PCV valve now rests in the "V" of the engine. The "V" aluminum cover contains composite oil separating baffles with unique tubing. This results in less overall oil tubing thus reducing the potentiality of oil leak sources. The presence of the oil baffles also reduces oil consumption and increases the performance capabilities of the ventilation system during high performance maneuvers (greater than 0.55 lateral G) which the Z06 is capable of.

Exhaust Manifolds
The LS6 utilizes newly designed exhaust manifolds. These manifolds are constructed of cast-iron material and have been designed to reduce weight by utilizing thin walls.
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All mods installed between Jul & -September. 2010 - entire powertrain is new

LG Motorsports G5X3 114 LSA cam:
Trying to find a camshaft for your Corvette, Camaro or other LS powered vehicle? Let Lou Gigliotti's thirty plus years of racing experience work for you. LG Motorsports has a custom cam for any application. Each cam is a custom grind manufactured to the closest tolerances by Comp Cams. LG Motorsports uses only the best valve train components available for the LS series of engines. LG motorsports has seen on numerous installs, 70 rear wheel horsepower gain from this G5X3 cam. No streetable cam makes more power. LG Motorsports G5X3 cams were designed to work with LS1, LS6 and LS2 engines.
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Ported, Polished, & Milled Heads to 59cc Heads
The porter is well know Pete Incaudo. He used to work for Crane, If you do a search in Google, (he does all the flow bench testing for the vette and Ls1 magazines. Best service in the country..I promise you. He will get your info and design your cam for you...the guy treats you like a friend and not a client. This dude knows his sh*t and has been around since the development of AFR heads (witch he took part in ). His cell & e-mail is [email protected] and cell# is 813-469-4665.
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new 42# Injectors

new BBK 75mm T/B Spiral ported for high velocity via CNC

new Level III 4L60E Automatic transmission built for 600+ RWHP - built by Tracey Lewis RevXtreme

new 3600 Billet Stall Converter

new Ceramic Coated Long Tube Headers

new Off Road Y Pipe
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Complete Transmission, Engine, Suspension, Driveline and Chassis bushings all replaced with new Prothane Motion Control performance bushings. Newly installed new Prothane Motion Control Total Master Poly Bushing Kit & new parts installed include:
Ball Joint Boots
Body Mounts
C-Arm Rear
C-Arm Front
Drive Train
Shifter Bushings
Shock Bushings
Spring Pds/Coll Iso
Spring Shackle Rear.
Steering Bushings
Strut Arm/Rod
Strut Tower
Sway Bar Bushing
Sway Bar End Link
Tie Rod Boots
Transmission Mount

new engine mounts

Ram Air

New SLP Air Intake System

New Harmonic Balancer

New MSD Plug Wires

Camel Leather, Pwr. Seat, T-Tops with mint condition original sun shades, Monsoon CD Audio System (audio controls on steering wheel),PW, PL, Cruise, Tilt

new Black Enkei wheels (see pic) & $1000 run flat tires

mechanically a 10 needs nothing - everything new A/C etc. all works

exterior paint & clearcoat like new

interior excellent, power leather seats excellent condition - no tears etc.
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New Sniper Ground effects side skirts & Vizage Front Spoiler - professionally painted computer matched white to match car, pic - top of the line flexible polyurethane very aggressive ground effects (NOT ricey looking fiberglass junk)

Performance upgrades will be completed & I will be having car street tuned as well as dyno tuned in 2-3 weeks with top of the line EFI Live or HP tuners (not handheld tuner), when done I will provide addiitional pics & dyno results. Expected results (+/-5%) are 525HP at crank & 445 RWHP.

I will be having car street tuned "and" dyno'd in a couple weeks and will provide results + additional pics when complete.
Vehicle will be available (all performance mods installed tested etc. in 2-3 weeks)

Engine and tranny are new so will need to be broken in. (Joe Gibbs or Redline engine break in oil is best for break in 1st 105 miles anyways but Royal Purple or Mobil 1 or synthetic can also be used as alternative for break in period)) - You want to accomplish two things during break in - seat the rings and break in the bearings. For the rings - you want cylinder pressure while they're new and sharp so during the first 50 miles especially - give it strong and even (a little gradual) 3/4 throttle runs up to 4000 to 4500 rpm frequently, and in the the higher gears give it 3/4 throttle frequently for a few seconds at a time as long as you're above 2000 rpm. Like stated above - don't lug it. For the bearings, you want them polished through the RPM range to wear them evenly all around - so operate the engine through the range - just don't over rev it, stay away from the redline. After the first 50, drive it more normal but do the same things, just don't worry about doing it as often. Drive it that way for 500 then change the oil. Then have fun.

I am sure that I forgot something.....but the list is long enough. Everything was professionally installed, and there is
well over $12,000 in parts alone (not including labor) in the past 2-3 months most (entire powertrain & all performance bolt-ons have zero miles).
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Old 09-20-2010, 12:12 AM   #2
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Documentation is key here. They mods are only as good as the parts/installer.
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I think you're trying to sell a Firebird as a Vette, and basing all the specs as if it was a vette. Which I dont think is correct, all I see listed when I read is, "New Super Awesome Parts!" and not original equipment. and for that reason I wouldn't make an offer for much more over 10k assuming the rest of the car is in mint condition...

And trying to sell an LS6 as being a vastly superior motor the LS1? The LS6 is marginally better in some aspects but basically the same motor. I'm not even seeing the two most important things people look for when they're buying a car, Mileage and VIN # ...I'm sure its a great setup and all but If I was a buyer I'd have an issue with the way you're going about selling it. but, If you trying to sell this to a complete moron then I think you have them sold.
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Originally Posted by 01ssreda4 View Post
Documentation is key here. They mods are only as good as the parts/installer.
bump ttt - thanks in advance for your input
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