M6 + Drag Radials. COME IN
02-09-2011, 08:06 AM
#23
Again, I'm not saying it can't be done, because it can. People have made six speeds and radials work, but it's not easy when you're making enough power to go 1.4s and 1.5s. Bias plys are not a "band-aid" as you put it, they just simply work.
02-09-2011, 09:41 AM
#25
Call M/T and tell them to recommend you a tire for your clutch car and they're going to tell you to run a stiff wall bias ply every single time. Their drag radials were designed to be run behind an automatic transmission with a constant load applied to them, and they don't handle the shock that comes from clutch dumps very well. Once they start spinning, they have a hard time recovering and tend to shake.....and we all know how friendly tire shake is on driveline parts. The bias ply can recover much easier from spinning.
That said, people have found ways to make them work with clutches.....and if you DO make them work you'll likely ET and MPH better with the radial than with a bias ply. Success with them also depends largely on track prep. They will be far less forgiving on a greasy track than a bias ply will.
Cliffs: If you're after every last ET/MPH and don't mind spending the time constantly tuning the chassis to make the DR's work with your current track conditions, then the radials CAN get you there.....but it'll be a challenge.
That said, people have found ways to make them work with clutches.....and if you DO make them work you'll likely ET and MPH better with the radial than with a bias ply. Success with them also depends largely on track prep. They will be far less forgiving on a greasy track than a bias ply will.
Cliffs: If you're after every last ET/MPH and don't mind spending the time constantly tuning the chassis to make the DR's work with your current track conditions, then the radials CAN get you there.....but it'll be a challenge.
02-09-2011, 09:51 AM
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^^ lol My dad just said most of that to me last night. I went over to there house to work on my car, we were talking about changes I planed on doing to the car before Spring, he sad.."You better put those ET Streets back on. You spend more time under your car playing with shocks than you do racing when you show up on radials" lol..
02-09-2011, 10:29 AM
#27
Call M/T and tell them to recommend you a tire for your clutch car and they're going to tell you to run a stiff wall bias ply every single time. Their drag radials were designed to be run behind an automatic transmission with a constant load applied to them, and they don't handle the shock that comes from clutch dumps very well. Once they start spinning, they have a hard time recovering and tend to shake.....and we all know how friendly tire shake is on driveline parts. The bias ply can recover much easier from spinning.
That said, people have found ways to make them work with clutches.....and if you DO make them work you'll likely ET and MPH better with the radial than with a bias ply. Success with them also depends largely on track prep. They will be far less forgiving on a greasy track than a bias ply will.
Cliffs: If you're after every last ET/MPH and don't mind spending the time constantly tuning the chassis to make the DR's work with your current track conditions, then the radials CAN get you there.....but it'll be a challenge.
That said, people have found ways to make them work with clutches.....and if you DO make them work you'll likely ET and MPH better with the radial than with a bias ply. Success with them also depends largely on track prep. They will be far less forgiving on a greasy track than a bias ply will.
Cliffs: If you're after every last ET/MPH and don't mind spending the time constantly tuning the chassis to make the DR's work with your current track conditions, then the radials CAN get you there.....but it'll be a challenge.
That is actually good to know. Thanks for the information.
02-09-2011, 02:38 PM
#29
LOL We are talking about 10sec street cars not John Forces funny car. Drag radials are faster IF you can get them to work. Ive seen it with my own eyes. Actually the red car in the background of the pic I posted is ME. If he can do it we all can do it. Just takes time and suspension tuning. I used to say the same thing about bias tires until I was shown it can work.
