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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 12:52 AM
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Yes Im sure about that. I found the thread where he sold that H/C setup. He had the dyno sheet/timeslip from ATCO raceway
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 02:01 AM
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Originally Posted by hitmanws6
Yes Im sure about that. I found the thread where he sold that H/C setup. He had the dyno sheet/timeslip from ATCO raceway
He was running slicks not drag radials.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
I used to think that to when my car dropped .2 just by switching to bias ply on stock suspension, then I saw this with radials and a M6.
Guess you better call John Force and tell him he's doing it wrong, and needs to order a set of 325/50/15s

Again, I'm not saying it can't be done, because it can. People have made six speeds and radials work, but it's not easy when you're making enough power to go 1.4s and 1.5s. Bias plys are not a "band-aid" as you put it, they just simply work.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 08:52 AM
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F Jonh Force...lol
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 09:41 AM
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Call M/T and tell them to recommend you a tire for your clutch car and they're going to tell you to run a stiff wall bias ply every single time. Their drag radials were designed to be run behind an automatic transmission with a constant load applied to them, and they don't handle the shock that comes from clutch dumps very well. Once they start spinning, they have a hard time recovering and tend to shake.....and we all know how friendly tire shake is on driveline parts. The bias ply can recover much easier from spinning.

That said, people have found ways to make them work with clutches.....and if you DO make them work you'll likely ET and MPH better with the radial than with a bias ply. Success with them also depends largely on track prep. They will be far less forgiving on a greasy track than a bias ply will.

Cliffs: If you're after every last ET/MPH and don't mind spending the time constantly tuning the chassis to make the DR's work with your current track conditions, then the radials CAN get you there.....but it'll be a challenge.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 09:51 AM
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^^ lol My dad just said most of that to me last night. I went over to there house to work on my car, we were talking about changes I planed on doing to the car before Spring, he sad.."You better put those ET Streets back on. You spend more time under your car playing with shocks than you do racing when you show up on radials" lol..
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jmm98LS1
Call M/T and tell them to recommend you a tire for your clutch car and they're going to tell you to run a stiff wall bias ply every single time. Their drag radials were designed to be run behind an automatic transmission with a constant load applied to them, and they don't handle the shock that comes from clutch dumps very well. Once they start spinning, they have a hard time recovering and tend to shake.....and we all know how friendly tire shake is on driveline parts. The bias ply can recover much easier from spinning.

That said, people have found ways to make them work with clutches.....and if you DO make them work you'll likely ET and MPH better with the radial than with a bias ply. Success with them also depends largely on track prep. They will be far less forgiving on a greasy track than a bias ply will.

Cliffs: If you're after every last ET/MPH and don't mind spending the time constantly tuning the chassis to make the DR's work with your current track conditions, then the radials CAN get you there.....but it'll be a challenge.


That is actually good to know. Thanks for the information.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 10:52 AM
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Ive been cutting consistant mid 1.5 60s and a best of 1.45. Im using an ET Drag (28x10.5) and making almost 800 to the wheels through a stick. I couldnt hook worth a **** on ET Radials and I was on 325/50s.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 02:38 PM
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LOL We are talking about 10sec street cars not John Forces funny car. Drag radials are faster IF you can get them to work. Ive seen it with my own eyes. Actually the red car in the background of the pic I posted is ME. If he can do it we all can do it. Just takes time and suspension tuning. I used to say the same thing about bias tires until I was shown it can work.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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Hoping this debate is settled by the time I can afford an aftermarket rear.

My 10 bolt is "ascared" of any kind of sticky tires.
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by hitmanws6
Yes Im sure about that. I found the thread where he sold that H/C setup. He had the dyno sheet/timeslip from ATCO raceway
Says mt slicks in the vid....
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Old Feb 9, 2011 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1961ba427
Hoping this debate is settled by the time I can afford an aftermarket rear.

My 10 bolt is "ascared" of any kind of sticky tires.
If you want a sticky tire that will be easier on your rear end, put a bias ply tire on it, instead of a radial. Of course I'm sure ACRadialRod above will disagree.
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 02:06 AM
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1.55 on MT DR (16s, in Z28 rims)
1.43 on etdrags
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by studderin
1.55 on MT DR (16s, in Z28 rims)
1.43 on etdrags
POW!!!! haha
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Camaro396
If you want a sticky tire that will be easier on your rear end, put a bias ply tire on it, instead of a radial. Of course I'm sure ACRadialRod above will disagree.
I agree with you on that one.

Im just saying radials can work and are better for a street car. You understand?????????? Ive had 5 rear tire combos on my car in the last couple yrs and Im back to a Drag radial.
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Originally Posted by studderin
1.55 on MT DR (16s, in Z28 rims)
1.43 on etdrags
Did you ever try them on a 15"drag rim? Doesnt really seem like a fair comparison IMO
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Old Feb 10, 2011 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by AChotrod
I agree with you on that one.

Im just saying radials can work and are better for a street car. You understand?????????? Ive had 5 rear tire combos on my car in the last couple yrs and Im back to a Drag radial.
Drag radials are better for street driving because they dont have the "wobble" bias plys get but they definitely do not hook as well anywhere, street or track.
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