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can someone explain how the weldcraft ones are weak and how this place makes them better??
I think we need empirical evidence to make an educated decision on the matter. Further, I'd imagine if catastrophic failure has occurred from Weldcraft wheels, there should be public record of any lawsuits.
Lastly, if the owner of Team3 is happy to take about his widening process, I'd be willing to bet the owner of Weldcraft would also be willing to discuss his own process.
And to the OP -- I also like the stock 01/02 WS6 (and 95 Comp T/A) wheel. It seems most people dislike it, but I think they're one of the best styles.
I think the Weldcraft method "seems" like it would weaken the wheel since it's two butt welds. But, I very much doubt it's really any weaker. Think about the fact that most three piece wheels are a face and two pieces for the outer rim joined together either via weld or bolts.
It's an evenly distributed load across the entire wheel. And if welded correctly, that area of the wheel might be stronger than the aluminum.
can someone explain how the weldcraft ones are weak and how this place makes them better??
I posted the number above, just give him a call. Is hard to describe it, but he will explain it clearly.
Or, just wait till mine get done. I'll post pictures.
Also.....mine are going to him for re drilling of the bolt pattern. He said he has to first look at the rim, take specific measurements, and THEN he will know if he can even widen them. He will only widen a rim if his process can work on them. Not all rims can have his process done. Weldcraft does any rim with the steel hoop method.
Call Weldcraft too, ask if they have any side loading tests on their widened rims they can share........
I was going to use Weldcraft, but not after talking to this guy and talking to Fixrim.com. They also said DO NOT use Weldcraft, only use Team3. Fixrim.com is who gave me Team3's phone number.
This is how i was told and kinda scared away from this idea. "it's like taking two #2 pencils and gluing them together at the ends(eraser) and then ending the two tips. Same with wheels cutting them and gluing them back in this case clearly welded back.
All you guys have to do is call Weldcraft and ask him to show you THEIR OWN side loading test results done by an independent test facility. They won't have any. Team3 does.........their wheels come out stronger and pass all tests. Weldcraft wheels fail all tests.
Just call them and ask for results.......settle it.
Ah, that's fantastic. I actually saw his for sale thread and asked in it what was the spacer size. 1/2" on a Camaro. I have a little more room in the well with a T/A, so I might could fit something in the 5/8" range to gain a little clearance on the backside...
Those were my wheels, I am putting down around 400 RWHP and beat the dog snoot out of them, run a few track sessions with them and they held up with no problems. Weldcraft did a great job balanced out perfect
ya Ive never heard any problems with weldcraft. and its not on 350hp bolt on cars. 11 rim its going to have a 313 335 some wide *** DR, on some bad *** boosted car with 7-900whp
I'm an ex-welder, and if you do it properly, talking about cutting and adding a section, it will be just as strong as before. Its all about the quality of the fab work. Its not rocket science after all!
1)Where are these test results you speak of comparing both companies under the same conditions?
2)Who conducted said study?
3)Is the test even an industry standard for testing wheels for stress?
Maybe the Team3 guys is a good salesman and blew smoke up your *** with the big words he used lol
And we have you pegged if you believe ANY company's claims of performance results that the company gives you. For all you know there is a guy in the back room generating HP/Tq curves showing a 30hp increase from changing to their spark plugs (for example).
I constantly laugh, but in a "I feel sorry for you" manner when people are told information from a company in which they are thinking of buying a product from and then believe it whole heartedly. Who the f*&ck is going to tell you they process/product is subpar or inadequate compared to another company????
It's free to do your own research and see if they are full of ****...
Question everything and believe nothing until there is enough proof to do so.
Because I am the OP on this thread, I should say I decided buy the Billet Specialties Street Lites instead. The 17x11s of these are lighter than the stock 17x9s, look better, and are stronger than the welded stuff I would imagine. Also, for the price of the welding, these aren't much more per wheel...