Forgestar
11-03-2018, 03:15 PM
#1
Forgestar For you Forgestar guys, I spoke to 1320 wheels and the tell me the F14 wheels are not hub centric did anyone get hub centric rings with their wheels?
Thanks.
Thanks.
11-07-2018, 11:02 AM
#7
I got the plastic rings too. But it would be nice if they were made to fit metal to metal without (breakable or lose-able) plastic rings.
I think some of the design compromises on the back/mating side of Forgestar wheels have to do with how they are literally manufactured. Every wheel comes from a huge slug, spun and forged per order. So the center part has to be the same for their forge machine to grab. I'm totally speculating here. But I did read up on how flow forming works, tried to watch a bad youtube video on it.
They *could* machine the back side more or better too. But then maybe that increases the price. idk
I think some of the design compromises on the back/mating side of Forgestar wheels have to do with how they are literally manufactured. Every wheel comes from a huge slug, spun and forged per order. So the center part has to be the same for their forge machine to grab. I'm totally speculating here. But I did read up on how flow forming works, tried to watch a bad youtube video on it.
They *could* machine the back side more or better too. But then maybe that increases the price. idk
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11-08-2018, 11:08 AM
#8
My goal was a certain weight wheel with certain features, I thought the F14 would fit the bill based upon other customers reviews. When it arrived and they weighed ~3lbs per wheel more than prior customers (apparently due to strength improvements) and they were lug centric, I looked into returning or reselling them. The shipping cost and lead time to obtaining another set of wheels within my goals led me to keeping them, though.
11-08-2018, 12:43 PM
#11
good info. ive been looking at forgestar but i was told a lot lighter weight than what you ended up with. plus not being hub centric kinda blows that plan.
11-08-2018, 12:58 PM
#13
One thing I noticed with my F14 that I received in the spring that nobody else mentioned was that the hub part of the wheel was much larger than the actual hub on the car. I had to grind down part of my stock caliper mount to clear the wheel hub. Hopefully it isn't an issue when I switch out to brembo calipers or something.
11-09-2018, 08:19 PM
#14
The wheel weight for Forgestar will change based on offset because they machine the center of the wheel to provide the required offset. Also they sell three depths concave, deep concave and super deep concave, all of these would have different weights. I would bet the weight could change a couple pounds based on offset and depth. A concave wheel with 42ET will have a big "spacer" where the super deep concave will have that spacer completely machined down. My point is they can't provide exact weights because the wheels are custom.
GM wheels are all lug centric. So I'm not sure the concern there. Forgestar provides spacers just so they are easier to install. I don't see the issue.
GM wheels are all lug centric. So I'm not sure the concern there. Forgestar provides spacers just so they are easier to install. I don't see the issue.
11-10-2018, 06:47 AM
#15
If the wheel or bearing gets hot enough (such as on a road course), the plastic hub centric rings melt and make a mess to remove. Alternatively, I've read of different concerns using metal rings, I think it was they can seize and become difficult to remove if using a steel/aluminum combo. If you're not pushing the car that hard you shouldn't worry about it melting.
Outside of the heat, I've already had instances where I've almost lost the rings during maintenance. I can leave the spacers off but it takes longer to mount the wheel.
Regarding deep vs super deep, I recall being told the weight difference would be insignificant. If you don't care about MOI, then don't worry about the weight.
Outside of the heat, I've already had instances where I've almost lost the rings during maintenance. I can leave the spacers off but it takes longer to mount the wheel.
Regarding deep vs super deep, I recall being told the weight difference would be insignificant. If you don't care about MOI, then don't worry about the weight.
11-10-2018, 09:08 AM
#16
I never considered the ring getting hot enough to melt... have you ever experienced that? I only Autox so my stuff doesn't get that hot.
I bet there could be a pound or two difference, which to many is small. I went with CF5 with 315 rivals they are right at 50#. I had a set of F14 as well, I never weighed just the wheel.
Forgestar are a good bargain so there will be some compromises.
I bet there could be a pound or two difference, which to many is small. I went with CF5 with 315 rivals they are right at 50#. I had a set of F14 as well, I never weighed just the wheel.
Forgestar are a good bargain so there will be some compromises.