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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 01:31 PM
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I had a short in the conector on my bcm, radio was turning on and off. I unpluged the conector and there was a loose wire. fixed it. then I went to start my car and everthing works but the starter will not engage. The security light on the cluster is not on and the led light on the dash is not blinking anymore.


does this sound like a VATS problem Or did somthing get messed up in the BCM??
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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If the security light isn't on then it's not a VATS problem. You should check that the yellow with black wire in the 32-pin blue connector at the BCM isn't loose or disconnected. That's the starter relay control wire. Also check all the black wires in each of the connectors because they provide the ground for the starter relay.
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Old Nov 9, 2008 | 06:06 PM
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I also noticed that the door locks are not working now also.
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Check that you didn't accidentally loosen or disconnect the plugs on the BCM when you were working on it. The green 6-pin connector has all the power lock connections.
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I checked all the fuses, they were good. I could not get the starter fuse to show that it had power. Is this b/c it only does when it is starting?? is it possible that I may have put some wires in the wrong spot when I reassembled the conector?? is there a diagram somwhere??

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Funny...I don't remember mentioning fuses.

I have the pinout diagrams for the BCM connectors at work. I'll post them tomorrow.
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Old Nov 11, 2008 | 06:57 AM
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I got a few of the wires in the wrong spots. I put them back and everthing works again.

I could use a new conector though, mine is a little worn out from taking apart a few times. Do you know where I can get just a new conector??

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BCM connector part numbers:

Black 6-pin with leads... 15305888
Green 6-pin with leads... 12089527
Blue 32-pin without leads... 12110207


Connector C1 (green)
ATANDriver Door Unlock
BGRYLock All Output
CRED/BLKLock All Input
DORN/BLKUnlock All Input
EGRY/BLKPassenger Door Unlock
F -- Not Used




Connector C2 (black)
ABLKGround
BORNBattery Positive Voltage
CDK BLURetained Accessory Power (RAP)
DBRNAccessory Positive Voltage
EDK BLU/WHTCourtesy Lamps Feed
FREDBattery Positive Voltage



Connector C3 (blue)
C1BLKGround
C2PPL/WHTIgnition Key Resistor Return
C3 -- Not Used
C4PPL/WHTFasten Seat Belt Indicator Control
C5DK GRNStarter Enable (V6 VIN K)
C6 -- Not Used
C7GRYInterior Lamps Command Input
C8BLK/WHTPark Lamps Relay Control
C9BLKHorn Relay Control
C10 -- Not Used
C11YEL/BLKStarter Relay Control
C12GRYSecurity Indicator Lamp Control
C13BLK/WHTSeat Belt Switch Signal
C14LT GRNIgnition Key Signal
C15 -- Not Used
C16DK GRNSecurity LED Control
D1WHTCourtesy Lamps Return
D2LT BLUShock Sensor Tamper Input
D3BLK/WHTRear Compartment Lid Release Signal
D4BRNRear Compartment Lid Release Relay Control
D5PNKIgnition Positive Voltage
D6YELProgram Input
D7WHT/BLKIgnition Key Resistor Feed
D8DK BLUFuel Enable
D9 -- Not Used
D10 -- Not Used
D11GRY/BLKDriver Door Open Input
D12BLK/WHTPassenger Door Input
D13ORN/BLKRear Compartment Lid Ajar Input
D14LT GRNShock Sensor Shock Input
D15BRNPark Lamps Feed
D16 -- Not Used

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well my c1 conector is green and my c2 is black?? Now the bcm is clicking and my mirror lights dont work, turn singnals are going slow also. thanks again
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Oops...you're right, I mistyped that. I have corrected the charts above. I double checked the part numbers and I had the correct colors there.

There's only two wires at the BCM that are related to the map/courtesy lights. They are the dark blue with white (power) and the white (ground).

The turn signals aren't related to the BCM at all.
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