jbro90

Hey guys just saw some things about the advance keys AK 104B set up and it really looks cook as Hell and i was woundering does it has anyone ever used this on thee car b4 and how do you like it and will it work with vats

bad_408_vert

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It works pretty well.
Few people have them in foodies & here is a thread about it with a video. https://ls1tech.com/forums/wiring-stereo-electronics/1512827-keyless-ignition-entry-like-c6.html

Vats has to be bypassed just like for any other keyless entry & remote start system.

You ll have to disable the steering wheel lock (also discussed in the thread).

luna123black

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I've been running it for a while now. And it works like it should. I had a few problems with the supplied harness but that's it. Like mentioned vats needs to be bypassed. Pretty easy to do.

jbro90

Could I do it myself like I wired the radio up in my car so good installation instructions

jbro90

How do you bypass vats

WhiteBird00

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First you do a search for "vats bypass".

jbro90

After I bypass vats will the car still turn on and drive like its suppose to

Avaric3

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:notsureifsrs:

WhiteBird00

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A VATS bypass only prevents the BCM from checking that the resistor pellet in the ignition key is the same one as originally programmed. It has no other effect on starting or running the car.

jbro90

Ok well got the reastors mine is a #10 so is a 3740 and I got 5 680 and a 330 and got 3730 what wires do is put the reastors on

bad_408_vert

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not sure if serious?

WhiteBird00

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You can get within less than 1/2 percent with only two resistors. The VATS system has a 10% tolerance so that would be close enough and a lot easier to work with than soldering six resistors in series.

3600 + 150 in series = 3750 (+0.267%)
3300 + 430 in series = 3730 (-0.267%)
3000 + 750 in series = 3750 (+0.267%)

But the best way is:

7500 + 7500 in parallel = 3750 (+0.267%)
This involves only one type of resistor so you can buy a package rather than looking for individual resistors. Also, connecting resistors in parallel is much more compact than in series.

95blackm6

I am very interested in the keyless entry system, I dont really have a desire for the push button so much... What I am curious about is the subject of the steering column lock. The G/F's 12' Suzuki uses a key fob that you can leave in your pocket, twist a standard ignition switch and go... It does have a small key in case the remote dies also.

My idea/question is this, can you buy a unit like the Advance Key, bypass the VATS and then leave just leave the "teeth" of a key in the ignition switch to allow the ignition to still start the car and unlock the column? (Basically just cut the head off the key and insert it) I have gotten used to the way the Suzuki system operates, it still uses a small button on the door handles to lock/unlock the car without using a key or the fob and the Advance system takes it one step further by "auto" arming/disarming/locking/unlocking the car.

Any thoughts on this? The only problem I see is that anyone could break into the car and be able to rotate the ignition easily, but the cut off key shouldnt be very visible (I have dark tinted windows anyway) and if someone gets into the car it doesnt take long to hot wire or destroy the igntion cylinder anyway.

jbro90

Yeah I went back and exchanged what I got and got 3.3k ohm and a 470 ohm one and put it together and works great that's guys for all your help and guidance cant wait for the advance keys to get here so i can install that im so excited ugh hurry up snail mail

95blackm6

Bad408vert answered all my questions, basically it was right there on their website and I missed it somehow. The Advance Key system has the ignition switch option that operates (and even looks) exactly like the system in the Suzuki. I am going to have to get one of these systems.

Jbro90, be sure to post up pics of the kit and the install if you can!

jbro90

Ok man ill try to but I may just have it put it cause I still have to do The steering wheel lock and that's got me really spoiled imo because of the air bag but because of all the little pieces and retainers and stuff going to get a price check today from around here for a steering wheel lock delete and the keys set up BUT IF ANYONE LIVES NEAR SIMPSONVILLE SC AND HAS DONE THE STEERING WHEEL LOCK BE FOR PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU WOULD LIKE TI HELP A BROTHA OUT LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DWake

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I accidentally broke the spring for my lock back when I was digging into my steering wheel, so I just removed the lock, it's not too hard to get to, it will just take some time because of all the little things that have to be removed to get to it. I believe there is a thread on steering wheel column removal, search for that.

jbro90

I did but I think I might just cut the key in half and stick it into the ignition and turn it to the on position and leave it that way cause no one could steal it that way cause the wires to the ignition will be cut and sent to the button then might put ay cap or something over that I think

jbro90

Anyone install this advanced keys AK104b them selves and if so how did it go for you and how hard is really like to do it myself you know pride in doing something yourself deal lol thanks

jbro90

Anyone at all???????