American bass xd 12" 500 rms 1000 max $79
OR
American bass tnt 12" 600 watts rms 1200 max $115

American bass under rates there subs which is why I put a higher power mono. ..than the rms (usually you want to match rms of the sub with the mono block watt) unless you have 2 500 watt rms subs you would run a 1000/2 (1000 watt 2 channel) or a 500/1 (500 watt one channel, which means mono block)... but you don't want 2 so I won't confuse you..


Amp... soundstream 1000.D 1 channel tarantula amp $130.
OR ...American bass 1600md mono block, $117

So you could do $200 for sub and amp or $245 and have the tnt (which is what I had)

If I had to compare these to mtx I'd say they are equal to a 12" 7500 , which would run twice price

They call for a ported box. .

Q power Qbass 12" single ported enclosure $27

Wal-Mart wire kit $35

Grand total = $275 for xd or $295 for tnt.

$300 is hell of a deal.. you may save a little by getting different brands like Sony or pioneer but would still be no less than $200 total so why not spend $100 and have something that will last and actually shake all of your mirrors instead of just making a wimpy boom. .. these you can actually feel the bass.. since they have such a big lip they move hella air... which is what makes sound, a sub doesn't make any noise it simply moves ..which pushes air, and when reflected off a wall or any surface makes bass.

Know what you are buying and why, dont just pick one randomly

Watch how it can go from tight notes to low ones so fast, which is important so you hear every beat and don't skip notes because the sub cannot react fast enough. ..
A lot of subs don't allow the speaker to slow down and speed up fast enough to hit every note if that makes sense



They move air, which is what you want

 

I used these amps(see pic) on mine 1 on each tnt. Except mine were half the size. .this pic is one of there bigger amp. There all same size sround, the higher the watt the longer they are. .. there 170 each though. ..they are called massive but are tiny lol...there also on sonic. ..

Lets say u can't afford the $300 so wanna spend $200 since it's a work car.. than I'd get 1 15" American bass DX... like $60 ... but either way a amp will be a $100-200 ...

Here's a video of the DX. .well 6 Lol..

 

I understand part of what you talking about but you kinda side tracked me when you started speaking about the channels on the amp LOL.

Let's do this....... pm me a link to everything you recommend and also to set of half *** decent 6×9s? On 6×9s they offer 2 way, 3 way, 4 way etc....... is the more ways the better ?

 

Tusky, lets just sum some things up your $200 budget for amp and sub is WAY to low a budget to buy anything WORTH spending money on, sure there are plenty of cheap subs out there but they are the Geo Prism equivalent for the sub/amp world. A few other things what about your budget for wiring and the box?

as for the 6x9's 2-way are the 6x9 cone plus a tweeter and for each "way" ontop of that you just get yet another smaller tweeter that increases the high-end frequency well beyond what most headunits reproduce and really you don't want that much highs behind you to start with.

also, speaking from experience, when your that dead tired even bass is not enough to keep you awake.

 

Average price for a single 12 inch box is 40 bucks. Sealed like 33 bucks. Ported box like 45 bucks....... That's not go really bother me neither is the wiring price.
Back to the subs..... it's way over 50 choices of subwoofers under a 100 bucks and that's just on one single website. I'm not trying to build a competition system here and not trying to spend a fortune on a system either bro. I want a speaker that's go last years to come and that's not go break me doing it. I have seen subs cost over 1200 bucks and I didn't even give that much for the car.

 

I've got an Alpine Type R 12 in a 1.2cuft box that I'm getting rid of for a stealth box..where are you located? It fit in the back of my TA and sounds pretty decent.

I also have an amp/sub combo I'm selling for $50 if someone comes and gets the damn thing but you probably don't want that lol.

 

I am located right below Memphis in Mississippi

 

Whatever you end up doing don't buy a prefab ported box. Can almost guarantee it will sound like crap. Sealed is ok as long as the airspace is right. Might need to reinforce it though. I put a TC Sounds Epic 10 in a stealthbox and blew it apart lol.

 

He wants a budget build.

Subs either call ! for Seald, ported,or are universal

A prefab ported box will not sound like ****(unless you get cheap one but 3/4 inch mdf is mdf)

American bass is not equivalent to geo LOL
They compete all over. .

 

Stealth by jl are made of fiberglass. I am 300lbs and to make a point I jumped on my old stealth box and tried to break it.. I even used them as stepping stools in my garage. ..yea yea I know they cost 400 each but who cares... I doubt you blew up a fiberglass box bud. . If so it should have been warrantied through AMS or who ever you bought it from. ..stop trying to knock what he is doing. .. you can have a nice sub setup with highs and mids for under $400 all hooked up(assuming he does the install)

I have been building competition vehicles for a long time and I can assure you that American bass is good.

OP which sub do you want me to start with the 12" tnt or the 15" DX?
I will also look up the 2 way massive mids ($40ish) and massive dime prices ($20ish)
I would compare the tnt to a mtx 7500 and the DX to a 4500 series. ..

For all the naysayers do a Google search.plenty if comparisons on there. Ie American bass VS. Rockfard fosgate,, VS sundown. ,..Google them,just because you have never heard of them don't mean ****..

You prolly never heard of psi either which is one of the most desirable subs ever!

Check this videohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Xq2KdrNKM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

Hmmmmm..... so yall think those high dollar pro boxes is worth the money ?

If so what would happen if I came up with the cash for a pro box and do a sub under a 100 bucks? Will it be a big sound difference between the MDF box vs a pro " rhino liner" type box?

Also what brand 6x9s is good?

 

Mdf sounds best,which is why I used my 400$ glass boxes as stepping stools and built my own Box. The only reason you would run anything other than mdf is for a custom fitment or weight. ..

Q logic makes best prefabs,ams sells them. (Most prefab boxes you see for cheap on the internet can and will most likely rattle loose and eventually fall apart...but not a jl stealth box, not sure if that's what name brand he supposedly blew apart..

You should get a prefab box from q logic or do the cheapest and best. ..build your own.

No a good box will not make your speaker louder...obviously subs sound better in the correct box vs a incorrect box...but that doesn't apply here since I will point you in the right direction for the right box from the beginning. .no matter what sub you choose

As for the 6x9 I would rather put just door speakers and 2- 1" tweeters up front. A good sub will move a lot of air in the trunk,so if you have only 6x9 playing for mids they will drown out since they are on the decklid above the trunk and the air from the sub moving can actually overpower the 6x9s movement = distortion

 

No probox isn't worth the $ IMO. The stealthbox I blew apart is just a MDF box glued together I bought from a sponsor on here. I'm not trying to knock what anybody is doing- don't know where you got that from. I know AB makes some good stuff- I've been considering getting a pair of 12" XFL's. Found them for $150 each shipped. The problem with most cheap prefab'd ported boxes I've found is that the tuning is way too high- usually mid 40's it seems. They usually don't advertise what the box is tuned to. I don't want a box for a daily that's ported at 45hz. I usually build my own boxes (except for that stealthbox) but if the OP doesn't want to build a box then I would buy a sealed box with the proper airspace and put an aeroport in it tuned in the low 30's. I asked what your opinion was of the Soundqubed HDS212 was since AQ seemed to have a pretty good rep. For $99 seemed to be a pretty good option as well for a budget build. Maybe as far as 6x9's go down to a local store and listen to some and see what you like.

 

That wouldn't be a bad sub either, although I've never used there entry level subs. Everything else they make is top notch so I couldn't imagine them being all that bad, I'm actually suprised there only $100.

My setup for next summer will be 2 custom built 15" PSI's, and AQ 3500. I will build my own Box of course and have it wrapped somewhere and do my own install.

2 xfl will pound and that's a good price,

 

if im looking for a sub for just bass do I want to look for a dual 1 ohm single 2 ohm etc etc ???

 

What ohm the voice coil is or whether it has 1 or 2 doesn't have anything to do with sound. It's basically just to make wiring it easier to achieve what ohm load you want the amplifier to see. Some amplifiers are only 2 ohm stable where some are 0.5 ohm stable. When you cut the ohm (resistance) in half the power output doubles (roughly). So where an amp is rated at 500w @ 4 ohms it may be rated for 1000w@ 2 ohms. If it is 2 ohm stable and your sub can take it you would want to wire it to a 2 ohm load. If you wire your amp to an ohm load lower than what it is capable of you will fry it.

This will help show you some options.
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Do you already have an amp?

 

I don't but I will buy a system for my car when ever it gets done.

thanks for explanation and link

 

I'm not saying to go out and buy the super expensive 1200 dollar stuff, but give yourself enough of a budget to get you something that will last the years you want from it, you would be surprised how easy it is to smoke some of these cheaper parts.

Yes 3/4" is 3/4", the problem is some of the cheaper prefab box companies, and hell some "pro" (and I use that term loosely) shops use finishing nails to put there boxes together and some of those cheaper prefab companies don't even use 3/4" mdf, they use 1/2" or 5/8" MDF or even freaking particle board (in some rare circumstances) so you have to be very careful when looking at those cheaper boxes if you don't build it yourself.

Personally I design/build all of mine, I would also be careful using the saw at the hardware store like you suggested, if they are not well maintained, the one at my local lowes is off by like 1/2" across the 4' width of the sheet, they really are just meant for rough cuts.

 

So what you saying Daniel...... A sub under a 100 bucks won't last me years to come even if some under the 100 dollar bill have a warranty?

If you look up all the speakers I named the NVX speaker has the most reviews. Don't ask me why .... cause honestly I don't know. Also Sony have a sub around 80 bucks with a 3 year warranty.

Will sound dampening the trunk help me out ?

 

I have been resisting jumping into this discussion but there are a couple of things you should know:

1. Sonic Electronix is a grey market vendor (they sell product intended for export to other countries and they are not authorized dealers for the products). That means that any warranty isn't worth the paper it's written on. Check out the Pioneer or Kenwood websites - they specifically mention that they will not honor warranty on any products bought from Sonic Electronix. Other manufacturers have similar provisions even if they don't specifically mention that site. Do you really think they could sell a Sony sub for 35% less than Amazon if they were selling legitimate product?

2. DO NOT buy 6x9 speakers unless that happens to be the size already used in the vehicle mount locations. There seems to be some magical fascination with 6x9 speakers that has carried over from the 1970s for audio newbies. Oval speakers will never sound as good as the equivalent round speaker so if the car has round mounting locations, use them.

There are some sub-$100 12" subwoofers around and they might work fine for you... just don't expect great sound quality. Stay away from Pyle and Boss brands and especially stay away from Sonic Electronix.