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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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I am looking at putting 6.5" JL audio components in the doors and some JL's in the rear as well. Is there any suggestions on what JL speakers to use? Also what 4 channel amp would be best for them? I really don't know squat about this stuff but want to replace the speakers. I will need an amp as the HU I have requires one. Any help would be great. Or even any other setup suggestions as long as it is a quality setup.

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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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I suggest not using JL. The price:performance ratio sucks, even if the performance alone is pretty good.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:41 PM
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Okay...are there any suggestions then?
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 06:54 AM
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I suggest not using JL. The price:performance ratio sucks, even if the performance alone is pretty good.
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to say their expensive is one thing. But to say they suck? They get some pretty damn good ratings. And you can get them pretty damn cheap if you shop.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 09:20 AM
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I know they can be expensive but I always thought they were a quality product.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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That's not what he said. He said that they are quality products (the performance alone is pretty good) but perhaps the performance isn't worth the premium price (price:performance ratio sucks).
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 08:35 AM
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JL are great, you can get te 6 1/2" component set the "XR" line for about $400.00 a pair. (2- 61/2", 2 crosovers, and 2 tweeters)

For the quality, they are a stael. If your not a true audiophile, then just get something cheaper

As far as an amp, JL has a 300 2 channel thats great to push 4 - 6 1/2" componets with, and i saw someone on here selling one.

I myself have the 450(4 channel JL) and the smame component set, and love them. Had the same setup in my camero also. Awsome SQ and they will get as loud as you can stand without distortion.

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jl is the best dont listen to that bone head and his ratio crap
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Originally Posted by WhiteBird00
That's not what he said. He said that they are quality products (the performance alone is pretty good) but perhaps the performance isn't worth the premium price (price:performance ratio sucks).

And you know and I know that is

Damn, this is ricer thinking when it comes to audio too.

It's like saying you should buy a camaro over a corvette because it's not worth the price.

Most people buy what they can afford, not what they want.

And what sounds good to you, may now sound good to me.

I think he could of worded it better.

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And you know and I know that is

Damn, this is ricer thinking when it comes to audio too.

It's like saying you should buy a camaro over a corvette because it's not worth the price.

Most people buy what they can afford, not what they want.

And what sounds good to you, may now sound good to me.

I think he could of worded it better.
Okay, I was trying to stifle a debate hear rather than start one (especially since the problem seems to be just a matter of reading comprehension). The question asked was about using JL products and his answer was that there might be better choices. I happen to agree. Regardless of how good you think JL products are, they aren't twice as good as comparable products that cost half as much (get it? ... "price/performance ratio").

Drop it and let's move on to answering the original question.
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Okay, I was trying to stifle a debate hear rather than start one (especially since the problem seems to be just a matter of reading comprehension). The question asked was about using JL products and his answer was that there might be better choices. I happen to agree. Regardless of how good you think JL products are, they aren't twice as good as comparable products that cost half as much (get it? ... "price/performance ratio").

Drop it and let's move on to answering the original question.
EDIT: There's not a comprehension problem. They are not good for the money you pay. I understood it perfectly.

How can you say that, get it?

what sounds good to you maybe different to me or anyone else. Tuning is the key, period.

To make a statement the price/performance is like me saying your just cheap. If there's nothing positive to say, than don't say it at all.

The guy happened to like JL, he asked about what selection, not don't buy them because there's better choices for the money.

It's like the guy who came in to the forum and said don't buy subs, it makes you slower. It's no damn different. That wasn't what he was asking. I can play devil's advocate too. There's many companies that make nice components, and any of them can be tuned to sound great. The key is tuning.

But like I said, that wasn't his question ; You're right, dropping it is easier.

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Originally Posted by jmls1
jl is the best dont listen to that bone head and his ratio crap
Says some random dude with 7 posts.

I'll extend my other post: There are also products downright better than JL. For example, the Boston SPG-555 subwoofer is better than a JL 13W7. This is not to say that JL is not a quality product. But to say they're the best and start flaming people for thinking otherwise, what, do you work for them or something? At one time, Intel CPUs were the best, but from 1999 until recently, AMD was as good or better. Things change. If YOU LIKE JL the best, HAVING HEARD the other guys (the one other brand your local JL dealer carries does not count as having heard the other guys) and can afford JL then buy JL, but don't go around the internet flaming everyone that says they're not the best.

That said, I would like to recommend the OP some specific products, but please describe what you're looking for out of your system.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dragonrage
Says some random dude with 7 posts.

I'll extend my other post: There are also products downright better than JL. For example, the Boston SPG-555 subwoofer is better than a JL 13W7. This is not to say that JL is not a quality product. But to say they're the best and start flaming people for thinking otherwise, what, do you work for them or something? At one time, Intel CPUs were the best, but from 1999 until recently, AMD was as good or better. Things change. If YOU LIKE JL the best, HAVING HEARD the other guys (the one other brand your local JL dealer carries does not count as having heard the other guys) and can afford JL then buy JL, but don't go around the internet flaming everyone that says they're not the best.

That said, I would like to recommend the OP some specific products, but please describe what you're looking for out of your system.
I can go down a list of companies who I would pick over JL. However, JL has numerous awards and has been in busy a very long time. These audio companies drop like .coms do. They come and go constantly. I would say they are doing something right.

I personal don't think there's a best. There's too many damn factors and like I said before, we all having different hearing. We all don't hear 20-20k.

As for AMD versus Intel. Honestly, I hate intel with a passion due to their business ethics, but Intel is on top as far as power is concerned. You should do a little research on that too. Tomshardware.com is a good source. When it comes to brute power, they are still first in that.

Price/performance doesn't always matter to some people. Even if your an overclocker too. They still are ahead. The fastest processor war has been going back and forth since 99 and recently, Intel has been on top.

AMD is on a different path. All about lowering processor power requirements. Far exceeds pure speed in the business world.

source is tomshardware.com
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If you really want me to cut you down when it comes to computers, make a thread in an appropriate place about it. I'm a computer science major first, not a car guy.

Anyway, I wrote that post to tell all the high school students that think JL is the best to go some fvcking research.
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Alright everyone...if this thread doesn't get back on topic, I'll be forced to lock it.
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All I wanted to know is what god damn amp to use for the speakers! A 4 channel but didn't know which. Everyone is so hilarious on how personal they take it. I like what I like and the next guy likes what he likes. We aren't on this post to discuss brands. Never asked, don't care. I appreciate everyones opinion on other products but add that to the end of your post after you post an answer relating to the fricking thread

What JL amp would be best for running a set of JL components and a pair of 6.5 JL's in the back? I am set for a sub if I put it in so that isn't needed. I like quality and any suggestions of other brands would be great but save it till last and we all have our opinions on things so leave it at that. This is as bad as the bickering about GFX on this board.

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Originally Posted by dragonrage
If you really want me to cut you down when it comes to computers, make a thread in an appropriate place about it. I'm a computer science major first, not a car guy.

Anyway, I wrote that post to tell all the high school students that think JL is the best to go some fvcking research.
rofl, your just getting started. Congrats, great field.

Stay on topic, I'm more than happy to chit chat with you on computers, pm me sometime. You brought up the compters and I gave you the source so you can't debate it, lol.

IS manager, i've been in the field 15 years. Just a little lessy in the programming side; more in the management side. I've touched every plateform.

Like I said before, there's a list of brands I can think of that are good. I'm by no means brand loyal.

JL, kicker, rockford fosgate, eclipse, mb quarts, polk, tons of top quality speakers, and the list goes on.
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Originally Posted by HAMRHEAD
All I wanted to know is what god damn amp to use for the speakers! A 4 channel but didn't know which. Everyone is so hilarious on how personal they take it. I like what I like and the next guy likes what he likes. We aren't on this post to discuss brands. Never asked, don't care. I appreciate everyones opinion on other products but add that to the end of your post after you post an answer relating to the fricking thread

What JL amp would be best for running a set of JL components and a pair of 6.5 JL's in the back? I am set for a sub if I put it in so that isn't needed. I like quality and any suggestions of other brands would be great but save it till last and we all have our opinions on things so leave it at that. This is as bad as the bickering about GFX on this board.

now to be back on topic.



For speakers, xr use to be their top of the line. They now have a zr line.

me personally, I like their slash series amps. Preferably their 450/4

150rms to the front channels and 75 rms to the rears. They make a 300/4 which is 75rms x 4

I would pick the 450/4 as I said before.
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I was thinking of the 450/4 myself Thanks for the info.
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