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Old 06-17-2011, 11:43 PM
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Went racing tonight and still experienced the trans shifting to second gear almost immediately after leaving the starting line when I left at a dead idle. Then I left at 2000 rpms and it worked perfectly. Any ideas out there ? A friend of mine thought the converter might need to be rebuilt. It is a ss4000 yank that I have been using for the last 4 years .
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Converter would have no effect on your 1-2 shift.
Use a scan tool and see if its commanding second gear. (Im assumung here this is a f body 4l60e?)
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PO121 CODE OR QUICK SHIFT 1-2-3-4 at WOT by 40 MPH FIX
Found this info on another forum and I know many people have popped up with this issue and wanted a fix. This would appear to be it. Hope it helps someone.

The curse of the P0121 Code... This code is infamous for giving people with larger cams fits...everything from traction control troubles, to shift point issues to just the good ole' P0121 code showing up for seemingly no reason making people scramble to purchase new Throttle Position sensors, adjust their set screws, etc, etc.

Before I go any further have a gander at the DTC information provided by LS2.com

http://www.ls2.com/boggs/dtcs/DTC%20P0121.htm

To outline a few key points

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The MAP is greater than 65 kPa

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The predicted throttle angle does not match the actual throttle angle

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All conditions present for 20 seconds

Now, that 65kpa map figure comes into play in nearly every LS1 Car/Truck because its the max map setting in most of the calibrations for the sanity test as shown here


Under normal circumbstances a stock cammed A4 will probably idle at around 35-40 map. When switching to a larger cam with more overlap your map readings could go up to as high as 70 or more kpa map which is way outside of the normal boundries. On a stock cammed car you'd probably need to be at around 30% tps to hit that same map number which is where that predicted throttle angle quote comes into play.

Now onto the last quote the 20 second timeframe. This will Usually come into play more often than not at idle with large cammed vehicles because many times your steady state map will be within the map sanity guidelines so there is a good possibity you might not see this code pop up immediatly.

There are a few ways you can cure this issue
a. Do as suggested in the help file which is to just set the min to 0 & max to 100
b. Adjust them to YOUR liking so you'll be within a reasonable limit. This will help determine if there IS a real issue with your TPS sensor later down the line.

So there you have it, as good an explanation I can come up with for that bastard code. So the next time you go WOT in your auto LS1 with a large cam & you go from 1st to 4th by 40mph or just a nagging p0121 code for no obvious reason you now have the info needed to fend it off.
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The 2-3 shift at wot is fine. The 1-2 shift is fine when the car leaves the line at 2000 rpms. Is it possible for the converter to flash to high if it is going bad or is ballooning ?
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You do nt have to have the code to have the problem.
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TPS faults will short-shift you too. Like too much WOT TPS
voltage.

Faults which take 3 events to set a code will still hassle
you immediately.




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