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Old 11-13-2006, 08:31 PM
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Why cant I just cut some off the end if its too long?
Well it will only work if your trans has splines up to the rear bearing. Find out by putting the yoke in the trans, if it goes in up to the seal then it's ok, if not pull the tail housing off.
If you take the tail housing off and find 4 or five inches of spline then either a groove for an o ring or a solid non splined section, put the yoke on and you'll see it doesn't engage much. It will hang out of the tail housing too much as well.
I don't think it can be made to work properly, but that might just be my opinion.
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Originally Posted by 8a8mfh
Well it will only work if your trans has splines up to the rear bearing. Find out by putting the yoke in the trans, if it goes in up to the seal then it's ok, if not pull the tail housing off.
If you take the tail housing off and find 4 or five inches of spline then either a groove for an o ring or a solid non splined section, put the yoke on and you'll see it doesn't engage much. It will hang out of the tail housing too much as well.
I don't think it can be made to work properly, but that might just be my opinion.
Sounds good, Ill give it a shot. The trans should be back within the next couple days.

My output shaft has 5in of spline or more then an Oring. There is no gap between the two. What is an acceptable length the yoke should hang out of the tail housing?

Here is a pic I took the other day of the tailshaft..
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That picture is the tailshaft with the splines up to the rear bearing, it will work with the yoke you described earlier. I was guessing on length.
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Originally Posted by 8a8mfh
That picture is the tailshaft with the splines up to the rear bearing, it will work with the yoke you described earlier. I was guessing on length.
Excellent! I was worried their for a min... Thanks!
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Slid the yoke in and it hangs out of the tail housing about an inch. If its to much am I going to be able to cut it to fit? I have fitted the driveshaft to it yet so It may not even be out to far..
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8a8mfh is correct. I rebuilt a T-400 using the output shaft from a 4L80, changed to a mechanical speedo gear for use in a 49 chevy truck. The shaft is splined 3.25 inches with an o-ring 1/4 inch further up the shaft. You need to order an old style T-400 slip yoke with 1.88 seal diameter and it will be counterbored (no splines) the first 1.75 inches. This extra machining allows the yoke to slip over the o-ring, reducing the possiblity of leakage when parked. FYI, 1310 u-joints are 3 7/32nds cap to cap with 1.060 cap diameter. 1330 and 1350 are 3 5/8ths cap to cap with either 1.060, 1.125 or 1.188 cap diameter. Larger cap diameters are found on 1350 joints, which don't appear on any production vehicles I've seen.
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Just looked at the picture, you will be fine with the fully splined yoke.
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I've seen vans with output shafts like the picture above, they come from the factory with yokes that have splines to the end. I guess you could cut it off if the yoke was too long, but it could be the output thats too long, or both. I wouldn't cut the output.
Just be sure that when you put the driveshaft in the yoke has at least 1" to move in and out before it bottoms out.
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Originally Posted by 8a8mfh
I've seen vans with output shafts like the picture above, they come from the factory with yokes that have splines to the end. I guess you could cut it off if the yoke was too long, but it could be the output thats too long, or both. I wouldn't cut the output.
Just be sure that when you put the driveshaft in the yoke has at least 1" to move in and out before it bottoms out.
Good deal. Ill know this weekend what I need to do. Hopefully it want need to be cut at all. LOL, I wasnt going to cut the output shaft.
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Who knew getting the right yoke could be so damn complicated.
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Originally Posted by calongo_SS
Who knew getting the right yoke could be so damn complicated.
No joke, This is and was the only thing stopping me on finishing. Which one did you go with?
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Nothing yet, still trying to get everything figured out. Probably won't start ordering things until after the holidays.
Speed eng. has one but it seems a little pricey, and who knows if it will work seeing all the difereences in this thread.
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Ok finally got to finsish everything up this weekend. The yoke I posted a link to did work, but I have to cut 3/4in off so it wouls slide in far enough so the u joint would clear the yoke on the rear. But other then that its in a running.
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is that 3/4 in that you cut off give the extra room for it to slide in and under launches.. Is there one that doesnt need to be cut?

How is everything doing now?
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Originally Posted by Tiger2o69
is that 3/4 in that you cut off give the extra room for it to slide in and under launches.. Is there one that doesnt need to be cut?

How is everything doing now?
Yeah, its not bottomed out. The driveshaft wouldnt fit past the yoke on the rear without trimming it down. If I had to guess is 3/4-1in away from being bottomed out. I actually wouldve been fine with 1/2in or less but decided to go a little more. I havent had the first issue with it.

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thanks.. Cant wait to get all this in..
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Originally Posted by Z'mnypit
Yeah, its not bottomed out. The driveshaft wouldnt fit past the yoke on the rear without trimming it down. If I had to guess is 3/4-1in away from being bottomed out. I actually wouldve been fine with 1/2in or less but decided to go a little more. I havent had the first issue with it.
Any chance you remember the yoke length once it was cut to size? Center to end?
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i need some help with mine...my transmission has a bolt on yoke in the back of it now...can i get some driveshaft "u" bolts and use that stock output with stock driveshaft? or do i need to get the slip yoke and install it?
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You need a slip yoke. I should have a use 1350 slip yoke if you need one.
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which one do i need? my output shaft has a screwed on slip yoke now...help please?


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